and Epic Games stance on Linux gaming is known
Ported… into… Fortnite? I don’t understand what that means. Like portint Sonic into Mario it just, what
Fortnite is a massive platform now, not one game with a few modes. They have car racing, the actual fortnite game, Lego survival crafting, all kinds of stuff. It’s why the download is 100+GB and every patch is like 50gb.
What even is the actual fortnite called now then? Battle royale?
The Battle Royale portion is called Fortnite Battle Royale. The true original Fortnite was a sandbox defense game that is now known as Fortnite: Save the World. They are both accessible from the Fortnite lobby.
Very confusing.
Prolly a new Fortnite game mode and cutting off the original games?
Porting a game into another game isn’t a thing. There’s not even a term for what this sounds like other than “dumb fuck bullshit”
I mean Fortnite is more a game engine than a game itself. It’s far more comparable to Roblox than anything else
Game engine in a game engine.
More like an SDK for a game engine.
It’s just UE5 with more limitations.
And since the two games they are “porting” into FN are already also built in Unreal, this isn’t so much porting as it would be simply copying and pasting in code and assets.
A game engine built on Unreal engine… ? hmm…
Most of the Rocket League code is already in Fortnite in the form of the Rocket League racing mode…
Time to start spoofing VMs in WinBoat.
The idea of porting existing games into Fortnite is probably the worst thing I’ve heard of since I learned about CGNAT
Reminds me of the 00s when every tabletop game got ported to the d20 system (so, ported to be d&d compatible, kinda). It’s a sign of the times when a monopoly starts absorbing everything else. Magic The Gathering just had a massively successful Final Fantasy set this past summer despite there being a full separate Final Fantasy trading card game.
And a lot of the artwork from the original card game too.
I really liked the card game as well. I ain’t ever gonna touch the mtg version though
Strongly doubt that these games will be entirely unplayable outside of Fortnite. Will eat hat if wrong.
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I don’t understand, this happened years ago. Both Rocket League and Fall Guys originally came out on Steam, but disappeared from the Steam Store and became Epic Games exclusives. If you still own a Steam copy though, you can still play it.
Is this saying that the game will be unplayable without an Epic Games authentication or something? It’s not like the Steam versions are getting updates anymore, so they should still be playable with other Steam members. Unless the publishers are pushing an update to the Steam version as well.
EDIT: Upon rereading, I see these games are being ported into another game. Does this affect Steam users at all, since Fortnite is an Epic Games exclusive?
I won’t touch Epic Games, so this doesn’t seem to have any effect on me.
RL on steam is getting updates but only for the windows client. The Linux & mac client is an old version that only works offline. I found this out the other day when I installed rocket league on steam to try out since I haven’t played it in a long time
You can play online with Proton though (as of the last time I played at least)
Yeah I ended up installing the windows version with proton, had some weird hiccuping and regular intervals but that might just be me, otherwise it worked fine. I didn’t actually try playing an online match though, only local multiplayer
I play RL through Steam, it’s still getting all of the updates.
Tim Sweeney is a bitch.
As the guy that founded the Rocket League Discord server ive always been incredibly saddened by what happened after Epic bought Psyonix.
Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior; open source games?
’Open source‘ as in software freedom: licenses for code and media that allow modifications and redistribution.
RIP in peace Rocket League.
I’ve got a couple thousand hours in Rocket League over the years but Epic has successfully made it so insufferable that I haven’t played it in about a year. Such a shame.
Stop killing games? What about stop fucking up games?
We seriously need to have a long conversation about what constitutes a refund on a game. I got several thousand hours of good times out of this game but the game that I paid for is no longer available.
The game itself hasn’t changed at all since Epic acquisition. The only significant changes they have made are making it free and removing trading which don’t affect gameplay.
How about them making the variants like Snow Day unavailable unless it’s in season, or at least that’s how it looked to me when I logged back on after a year or two of not playing. I also remember when you could play Snow Day and it wasn’t competitive.
Yeah, Snow Day and Dropshot are seasonal for ranked play. That’s because they were not popular enough on their own so it was taking too long to find matches at high ranks, making it hard to get the season title. Has nothing to do with the Epic acquisition though, just a need to reduce fragmentation on the player pool.
I would venture a guess that they are not popular enough because of the changes they made. I do recall a ton of people being pissed when they switched them to not having a casual option and went to ranked only. I wasn’t sure about the epic acquisition having an effect though. Thanks.
They were made ranked on 2018, and Rocket League had its peak in player base around 2020-2021 after it became free. Unfortunately that was followed by a huge drop in player base in 2022, which led to the extra modes changes in 2023.
The changes they’ve made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match, and completely useless servers.
The changes they’ve made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match
it has been like this since 2017. Now there’s maybe 1 or 2 extra pop-ups for the game pass garbage. Not that it’s a good thing, but it’s hardly a difference if it’s about 2 pop-ups or 4 pop-ups.
completely useless servers
Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse than what they had before? Psyonix servers were famously horrible to the point that the CEO had to issue a statement in 2017: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/server-performance-a-letter-from-our-ceo/
Followed by another Psyonix statement a year later: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/rocket-league-server-performance-update
it has been like this since 2017.
It hasn’t.
Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse
No I don’t. I know they are.
Great points. I now agree with you.
Glad we could find common ground 🙏
same thing happened to me for TF2: the game became free, but the game as released was no longer available… I’m looking forward to TF2 classic mod release. Apparently can already play it with the source sdk, but I haven’t found time to try that yet 😅
Maybe people will do something similar for rocket league… 🤞
The thing is, you never paid for a “game” in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.
The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what “buying” something digital means in the first place.
I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game. Whether that’s a “purchase” or a “license” is irrelevant to the fact that I can’t even play the game I “licensed” either.
They have altered the license. Pray they do not alter it further.
Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.
I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.
I also didn’t use the word purchase. You said “paid for a game”, I quoted you as saying you “paid for a game”.
Why are you pretending I misquoted you?
Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn’t, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.
That was my point – I was building off of what you said…
I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.
This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn’t in most cases.
Store’s like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren’t allowed to modify and distribute that, you don’t really own the game either.
Okay so if I didn’t pay for a license for a game, what did I pay for?
You did, and that licence comes with plenty of terms that can restrict or revoke your access to that game.
Which shouldn’t be allowed, but it is.
In an ideal world, you wouldn’t have to purchase a license to the game at all. You could purchase the game itself by receiving a packaged copy of it along with a copy of the source code.
But something inbetween would be a nice start.
It’s a wish list of what companies hope they can enforce. In the EU Windows licenses are transferable, for example.
One day a judge can say you actually paid for a Game.
Shut the fuck up with your pedantic points. We are broadly talking about having fun with a game. Who the fuck cares if I don’t own it after 10 years? People mature, fads fade, and games get stale. Do I like it? No. But I am not going to derail all other conversations to make it about the point I am determined to shove into every around me. Fuck off.
Somebody needs a hug.
At what point do we as consumers stop clicking “Accept” on 200 page agreements?
As soon as we stop needing those services. Most of the time it’s:
- These words make no sense to normal people
- It would take hours to read.
- Not using the product is not a choice anyway.
Am I out for the loop? What does this mean to port games to another game?
Is fortnite like a platform now rather than just the battle royale game?
Fortnite is like roblox now, it has tons of user generated games inside of it (created using the fornite edition of unreal editor) and multiple epic created games
It wasn’t even originally a battle royale game. Before that was a co-op base defense/survival game with resource collection and building elements. Kind of a limited, kid friendly 7 days to die.
Yeah basically new game modes. Rocket Racing is an arcade racer, Fortnite Festival is a rock band like rhythm game, both are entirely independent from battle royale but still integrated into fortnite eco system with skins and characters going between them. This is the metaverse vision that Sweeney never stops talking about coming to fruition.
So we’re heading into the shitty Ready Player One dystopian timeline but it’s gonna be in Fortnite?
KMN
Epic/Tim Sweeney can only do one thing really well: crying to the public.
Fuck Epic. Don’t care if they merge all of their games into one shitty game. Fall Guys was cool before Epic bought it, same thing with Rocket League. Now I don’t care about either game.
They want to be on iOS so bad with their game and store so they can farm credit cards of children’s parents, yet they don’t care about Linux at best, or are hostile against it at worst.
Epic/Tim Sweeney can only do one thing really well: crying to the public.
in the Unreal 3 era, almost every game was running on the unreal engine, and no one gave a fuck about the ID tech of the day (follow up to quake 3 engine)
Aren’t both the entire COD lineage and the Source engine based around the quake 3 engine, they never used Unreal?
I think with source it’s q2/1. Idk about COD, but sure, engines developed during the quake 3 era where probably 80/20 split. I’m taking about late 00s early 10s where even street fighter was on unreal engine(which it still might be)
The id tech I’m denigrating is the doom 3 engine which was used to make doom 3, quake 4, rage, prey and basically nothing else
When I remember I played native Linux version of Rocket League… 😿
on that note, but at a bit of a tanget: apparently SuperTuxKart has football mode now
I haven’t checked it out yet, but it apparently came out in the fairly recent 1.5 patch - and it looks pretty similar, might scratch the same itch. Dunno how active the playerbase is.
Imagine supertuxcart overtaking rocket league. Ah well. One can dream.
It’s still fun… but it also really makes you realize how much Rocket League relies on fancy graphics/etc.
Is that… Pepper as a playable character?
seems like it, it’s one of the mascots shown on their website: https://supertuxkart.net/Discover
It’s the only reason I bought that pile of shit. Them dropping support and then selling out to Epic left a sour taste.
This is on par with paying a subscription for heated seats in your car. These ideas are so unthinkable for normal people that I don’t even know what to say.
I mean normal people would just download a fortnite launcher and not think the world is ending, it’s really only us opinionated nerds who care about these things.
