and Epic Games stance on Linux gaming is known

  • null@piefed.nullspace.lol
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    9 hours ago

    The thing is, you never paid for a “game” in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.

    The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what “buying” something digital means in the first place.

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      9 hours ago

      I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game. Whether that’s a “purchase” or a “license” is irrelevant to the fact that I can’t even play the game I “licensed” either.

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        5 hours ago

        Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.

        I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.

        I also didn’t use the word purchase. You said “paid for a game”, I quoted you as saying you “paid for a game”.

        Why are you pretending I misquoted you?

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          Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn’t, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

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            4 hours ago

            That was my point – I was building off of what you said…

            I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

            This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn’t in most cases.

            Store’s like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren’t allowed to modify and distribute that, you don’t really own the game either.

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                4 hours ago

                You did, and that licence comes with plenty of terms that can restrict or revoke your access to that game.

                Which shouldn’t be allowed, but it is.

                In an ideal world, you wouldn’t have to purchase a license to the game at all. You could purchase the game itself by receiving a packaged copy of it along with a copy of the source code.

                But something inbetween would be a nice start.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Great, I’m glad we sorted that out. Thanks for the unnecessary clarification.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Lol you say you want a discussion and then act like a dickhead when someone engages in that discussion.

                    Nice work.

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      7 hours ago

      It’s a wish list of what companies hope they can enforce. In the EU Windows licenses are transferable, for example.

      One day a judge can say you actually paid for a Game.

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      Shut the fuck up with your pedantic points. We are broadly talking about having fun with a game. Who the fuck cares if I don’t own it after 10 years? People mature, fads fade, and games get stale. Do I like it? No. But I am not going to derail all other conversations to make it about the point I am determined to shove into every around me. Fuck off.