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    The worst part about Trump being a dictator is…hes not even good at it. At least if he was an effective dictator maybe we could modernize the military or expand research into nuclear fusion. Instead we get unfinished data centers and invading…greenland…because he didnt win a Nobel (which everyone knows is a joke anyway)

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    US went from “We don’t negotiate with terrorists.” to “We are the terrorists.” Sources: All recent happenings in the US. Killing of the innocent, invasion to the foreign countries, market manipulation, hostile takeover or the main govt. branches etc…

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      You realize that was 12 years ago and the only people who still bring this up are liberals acting like it’s some great “gotcha!”, right? Shut the fuck up with the tan suit already. You sound as demented as him. Maybe focus on today. If your best defense against facism is some half-witted comment about 12 years ago, weren’t not gonna win this.

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          My least favorite part of all the accelerationists and doomers is this:

          Do you think this is going to be quick? The U.S. is going to circle the drain for the next century, sinking further into Christofascism and dragging anyone they can with them. They’ll beg for armageddon.

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            I don’t know that we can make that claim. There’s a historical accuracy to that thought process. But there are also examples otherwise. It’s definitely not as clear and etched in stone like some say. There’s not a whole lot that our society shares with societies of the past. We have more guns than people, and obviously it’s a lot easier to take out a ton of people with an AR-15 than a sword. If all the rest of the world turn their backs on America at the same it’ll hurt a bit for the world, but it’d be the end of America rather quick. Beyond that, anti-vaxxers, climate change, social strife, there’s just no way to guarantee what you say.

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              Brother if you think the U.S., the largest military and economic power in the world is just going to quietly die and not knock everything over it can on its way out idk what to tell you.

              The current leader is threatening to seize sovereign nations because a random government didn’t give him an award (that they don’t even award), can you imagine his reaction if things actually get bad for him?

              But it’s true there’s no way to guarantee what I’m saying and I actually hope I’m wrong.

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                Oh no, hell burn the whole world to fire and ash if he doesn’t get everything his way. That’s why I say don’t be so sure it’ll be a slow process.

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    Firstly, Greenland is part of Denmark, not Norway. Not the same thing.

    Secondly, I might be wrong but I don’t think the Norwegian government gives the Nobel prizes, an organization based in Norway does

    Thirdly, how deranged does someone have to be to threaten war over not getting a peace prize?

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      Secondly, I might be wrong but I don’t think the Norwegian government gives the Nobel prizes, an organization based in Norway does

      Correct. The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by The Norwegian Nobel Commitee, not the government. The committee consists of members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament – again, not the goverment. The commitee thus a private body, and the government has absolutely no say in their selection of the recipient.

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        Just shows how fundamentally ingrained it is in Trump’s head that he thinks he’s King and can dictate what everyone in his country does. He does not understand that any government doesn’t have that power.

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      He’s terrorizing Minnesota because the population votes for the opposing party. The madness with the Orange knows no bounds.

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        also because walz stepped down from running for the gov, because hes too non-confrontational. the right wingers are trying to spin up the propaganda so that an R can take MINNESOTA, kristi noem even had to say it burned down a couple times to keep the lie going on CBS.

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          They think this will lead to MAGA taking overinmesota, they are delusional. This will only make it worse for them.

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        He’s terrorizing Minnesota because the population votes

        Don’t worry, not for long! 🤪

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      gestures broadly this deranged. It’s all excuses. Dictators don’t need reasons they just act.

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    How does Karoline Leavitt spin this one to reporters? Another joke? Or just attack the journalist for asking?

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      I’m waiting for the day the whole administration tries to flip the script and claim this was all a giant social experiment. They crashed the economy, invaded US cities with a militia, started killing civilians, and dragged us into a foreign war over oil and then kicked off WWIII bc they knew it was the only way they could get all the sheeple to wake up.

      Like the current grift will just shift into a new grift where they pretend an angry mob of millions forming outside of the White House was actually their plan the entire time.

      “This was a test and you passed. Congratulations, give yourself a round of applause.”

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      Even if it were a joke, some jokes aren’t appropriate for the leader of a country to make. Multiple countries are taking him seriously and gearing up to defend Greenland. If I called someone’s house repeatedly and threatened to rob them, I’d probably be arrested and the defence “it was just a joke” would do little good.

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      after she gets her lip injections, and botox, letting it rip after consuming mexican restuarant food. of course she wears lying CROSS.

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    Worlds biggest fucking baby. They seriously voted in a fucking baby as president of the USA…

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      I don’t know man, I currently got a baby and she seems rather reasonable in comparison. Sure she cries when she’s hungry but so far she has only hungered for milk and not a nobel peace price. I’ll let you know if things change.

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        I can believe once, the second one was almost certainly stolen. There is just too much evidence and litteral coffesions to think otherwise.

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          Democrats nominated Kamala Harris. There’s a reason she had to drop out of the primaries in 2020 before a single vote was cast. She was quite literally the worst option out of every Democrat option.

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            Far from the worst. Steyer and Bloomberg were absolutely worse candidates, they just had the funds to stay solvent for long enough for American Democrats to tell them so.

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            Stop parroting that lame Democratic excuse that the 2024 race was Fair & Square.

            Trump has cheated at literally everything he’s done in his entire life. It’s why he’s so profoundly ignorant - he paid or bullied other kids to do every bit of his homework, and learning absolutely nothing.

            So we’re supposed to believe that the one race that could keep him out of a lifetime prison sentence, was the one race he DIDN’T cheat in? Even when he had the open support and commitment from two foreign Oligarchs with massive hacking networks, and unlimited resources?

            It’s bad enough that MAGAs think we’re that stupid, but it is absolutely INSULTING that the Dems believe we’re that stupid. We should be infuriated at their lame excuse, invented to let them off the hook for their cowardice, weakness, and fecklessness.

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              So what would you like me to think of you if you think the person who couldn’t get any support in 2020, who didn’t participate in a 2024 primary, was suddenly nominated as a candidate for the general election is what was supposed to be a democracy?

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                So what? It wasn’t the ideal situation, but we were faced with a bit of an emergency when it became clear that Biden wasn’t up to the job. It wasn’t like she was chosen randomly, she was the VP, so she had already been part of the 2020 winning team, so she was next in line, and the logical choice.

                The idea that somehow she was an illegitimate candidate, making the biggest traitor in American history the ONLY possible choice, is STUPID.

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                  She was the VP from 2020-2024, and even then, VP is not an elected position, and she dropped out in 2020 cause nobody supported her.

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            trump is far worst, plus there were other issues that were playing against her, israeli and russian propaganda, musk rigging the machines, states choosing to end COUNTING early to make trump win.

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      And they knew him all too well. They saw his baby antics on television long before he started appearing on ballots.

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        Once would’ve been bad enough. They elected him twice (or allowed him to steal an election, effectively same thing if you accept it and don’t fight it)

        The first time was a terrible mistake, the second time was unforgivable. If you don’t learn from your mistakes, there is no helping you. Fight the orange man-baby and his supporters, or there is no future for you.

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          3 times, and both elections were STOLEN with the help of the same actors, plus a new one for the recent election.

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    “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize … I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America,” Trump’s message to Jonas Gahr Støre said. “The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.”

    The Norwegian government has no control over how the Nobel Committee awards its prizes. Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not Norway.

    I don’t understand how this is “normal.”

    Like, I can bring this up to Trump-liking family, genuinely smart people, and it’s just brushed off.

    If Biden so much as stuttered in a speech, it was like a national emergency. What do you think would happen if he started mixing up EU countries and impulse texting them over “your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize?”

    Congress would impeach any other president on the spot. Democrat or Republican.

    Even accounting for Fox News, I just don’t understand how this gets a pass.

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      Cognitive bias affects all classes and education levels. But in my experience conservatives are the most flagrant, “the only moral abortion is my abortion” for example.

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      Are you familiar with the concept of limerence? It’s an intense infatuation with a person typically rooted in romantic interest. It occurs when you don’t really know a person, and you build an idealized version of them in your mind that likely doesn’t reflect reality. You attribute all sorts of positive traits to them and overlook all their negative traits. You effectively view them through “rose colored glasses”. This is how Trump’s followers look at him. They have this delusional view of him as this strong man here to save them from the mean old leftists. His efforts to seize and wield extraordinary power is viewed favorably, because he is their savior. Everything he does is either awesome or it’s just minimized and ignored. When he does horrible things, it’s just haters looking to knock him down, because he’s just giving the U.S. the tough medicine it needs. There is no way to reason with them, because you can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place. It’s an emotional thing, in the same way you might be smitten by an attractive woman and build her up in your mind into something that she isn’t. The only way to break the spell is when your fantasy runs into cold, hard reality. In this case, the cold, hard reality will be financial collapse of the U.S. (or worse).

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        You effectively view them through “rose colored glasses”

        They must be seeing him through orange colored glasses, effectively normalizing his appearance. . . But who knows what they’re smoking to ignore all their other senses!

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        you can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into

        This is the crux. None of it is reasoned.

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          Yep. This is why you have to code your language to things that are emotionally evocative to them. To some Christians, it’s using the world evil (“this action is evil”). To others it’s using the word weak (“this makes him look really weak”).

          Edit: and to be clear, it doesn’t actually need to be logical. You can say something like “his makeup makes him look weak” or “I heard that he sings in a falsetto, that’s super weird”. It doesn’t matter (by definition, it doesn’t need to be logical). What matters is repeatedly associating a negative stimulus with the target position you’re trying to dislodge (or positive stimulus for a position you want held, but humans in America and maybe generally tend to be very profoundly negative averse). The reason these people are hear is because this association game has been played very long and very hard. It is the basis of propaganda.

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        People do this with fictional characters too. TVtropes calls it “Draco in Leather Pants”. People find an evil character attractive and so paint a picture of that character in their head that is nothing like they are in canon, exaggerating any good thing about them (or just making up good things about them) and ignoring or justifying anything bad about them

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        Script theory does a good job of showing how being able to follow certain social scripts does not suggest that the person does not hold a strong delusion that is unchallenged by those scripts.

        You can believe you can fly while not needing to contest that until it becomes an active choice you are forced to make. Some might back off from the belief when put to contest, because they are okay believing whatever feels good despite the dissonance they feel. Some might take action believing they can fly. Both exist comfortable in a shared social group of online “flying truthers.”

        People are easily deluded, and usually those delusions cover vaguely bounded and varying social groups, where a single person and an LLM can confirm the person into a noticeable delusion that hasn’t been socialized into the surrounding social scripts.

        This is also how you can get a genuinely smart person in math or something, which also holds confident deluded beliefs on some other context.

        On the whole: Eco-niche specialization, misplaced confidence, and social affirmation, generally can lead to this.

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      It’s because nothing Trump is doing scares them as much as:

      • Whites becoming a minority
      • Gender not being a fundamental way of organizing society
      • Random made up things they heard online that they believe to be true

      Trump doesn’t look so bad if you believe every US city was burned to the ground 6 years ago and had to be rebuilt using taxes from rural america which were collected by black & latino paramilitary troops controlled by the jews.

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        •Whites becoming a minority
        •Gender not being a fundamental way of organizing society

        These two points can be simplified down to “their hierarchies being disrupted.”
        People who have gotten so used to living with privilege that equality feels like oppression. They believe that to give others a bigger piece of the “treat people well” pie their piece needs to become smaller. They don’t understand that you can just make the pie bigger.

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      The entire MAGA movement is driven by tiny, limp dick energy. It’s obvious these guys are compensating for lots of stuff, like lack of brain cells, but I’d bet anything that the average MAGA, and especially the MAGA leadership, are all sporting weenies that are far smaller than average.

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    Waitaminit… a private Norwegian organization decides the manbaby isn’t getting an award, so he decides to take it out on Denmark?

    That’s straight up a pussy bitch move.

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      He’s too stupid to know the difference, plus he’s probably being bribed by some other pedophile racist billionarie in exchange for mineral rights or whatever.

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      Not even Denmark. Greenland, an autonomous country under Denmark’s administration(?).