Former Trump administration official and wife of top Trump aide Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, posted Saturday on X (formerly Twitter) an image of Greenland covered in the U.S. flag with the text “SOON”.
Can you imagine how much more useful to readers this publication could be if they wrote plainly true headlines instead of couching what happened behind click-bait bullshit?
“Stephen Miller’s Wife Threatens Greenland with a Meme on Social Media”
Look, now a reader would know what actually happened.
Stephen Miller’s wife desperately trying to stay relevant with MAGA.
At this point, we need to use force to stop Trump
Its risky, but …OK. I’ll tell Schumer to release the next memo. VERY strong language in this one. There will also be a walk out and a minute of silence, in both the Senate and the House (probably).
Maybe we could go to the extreme and get a UN resolution to condemn the US aggression?
Aren’t you being a tad too aggressive there?
At this point ? What was the threshold for you ?
At this point it’s necessary. It was necessary before, but now it’s necessary too
Like some Establishment Democrats are secretly bootlicking Trump, and plus he claimed to have made antifascism a “crime” which violates the First Amendment (which allows for the freedoms of speech, of the press, of religion, of expression, to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances to the government and such). Seriously!
bootlicking the same donors of the gop , yes. just the other day SLOTKIN was saying “we dont have healthcare for the constiuents or what not”(paraphrase) but she is a AIPAC shill
We need to split the Republican and Democratic Parties into different parties
Many of us have been trying to get people to organize online to do that in real time communities on say Matrix and Stoat to inform, collaborate, strengthen each other, etc but people need to stop scrolling, and do.
The whole country as a matter of fact.
How do we get through to people who want to be entertained?
Plenty of us already are doing but we need way more
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You mentioned Stoat
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We’ll just put up flyers and be like door-to-door sellers, talking to people about class consciousness - it worked for Zohran.
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Turn his own supporters against him. The younger ones aren’t stupid.
How?
Bloodthirsty psychopaths
The American people at their worst.
This isn’t the American people. It’s the will of thousands of the world’s most powerful multinational oligarchs — billionaires and old money millionaire elites (plus all their class-traitor lapdogs and puppets) — who are actively corrupting ALL politics and public discourse; waging class warfare, globally.
Murdoch is one of the most well-known examples, but I’m sure there are hundreds (if not thousands) of fossil fuel and military contractor investors or board members — you’ve never heard of — who are criminally corrupt psychopaths that deserve to be in the dirt.
These people’s only allegiance is to the almighty dollar. They have no real virtue, morals, or ethics.
Half of the American people voted for him. So it absolutely is.
Only about 2/3rds voted, so closer to 30% voted for him
Remember 4.7 million voters were purged from the rolls in 2024.
Yes too many didn’t care enough to vote but enough were prevented from voting to swing the election. Republicans are an anti democracy party
Always were. You know that bullshit they always spewed about “small government”? What they meant was NO government, because then the power is wielded by money and physical strength, i e fascism, just like they want it.
They don’t believe in democracy because they believe they must and shall rule regardless of whatever anybody else wants.
Just like a religion, just like a cult. Now look at them!
No, they live large government. It just has to be them and hurting people.
I also think the voting machines were rigged. enough proof of discrepancies out theremto show doubt in authenticity.
There’s definitely a number of statistical anomalies that map too cleanly to be a coincidence.
And the other 1/3 didn’t mind trump enough to vote. So yes, it is the majority of American people.
Because of the electoral college, getting out to vote when you otherwise wouldn’t have is almost entirely useless in most states as the party most states will side with is basically a forgone conclusion.
On top of that, the Republican party has spent decades making it deliberately difficult to vote by limiting the number of polling places, as well as limiting mail in voting.
The Democratic party on the other hand refuses to attempt radical economic upheaval that poorer US citizens desperately need because Democrats are still the “moderate” party that is in the pocket of billionaires.
The Republicans routinely promise radical actions that they say will make things better for everyone. They’re lying of course, but it’s hard to be exceptionally poor, have no access to health care and vote for the party that is not advocating radical actions on your behalf.
BoTH SidES
It’s 1 day every 4 years (2 including midterms). Even if the nearest polling place is 1 hour drive away. Even if your vote won’t be the deciding vote. In my country it takes less than 10 minutes to vote, but lets say it is 2 hours in the USA. That is a total of 4 hours.
If 1/3 of US-Americans are not willing to “lose” 4 hours every 4 years. And 1/3 of USAmericans directly vote for fascism. Then a majority of USAmericans are ok with fascism.
so where are the 70%? Why are they not on the streets? Why are they not protesting?
If they live in an area where their representatives do not vote for these policies, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to burn down local government buildings, when everyone in that local government opposes Trump as well? They’ve also already tried peaceful protests. Trump doesn’t care about that.
Look I’m not saying that people should not be doing more they absolutely should but multiple no Kings protests have happened notably being objectively some of the largest protests in the US ever documented.
Okay but that just means we don’t know what 1/3 would do.
If you’re one of the 1/3 of the dipshits who did not vote you bare full responsibility for this mess! You are part of the problem, you had a choice and you chose to support this idiocracy.
We know exactly what they are doing already. Watching the trains go by to Dachau saying “better them than me”. Watching their sons and daughters go to war saying “well I’m not really political”.
Feckless cowards. They bear full responsibility for the current situation yet you can’t count on them to do anything they aren’t made to do.
Just like the nazis in the 30’s. We’ve come full circle.
True
You know, sometimes I see all you non-americans pissed off that “nothing is being done” and think “know what? Maybe we should let the regime destroy the world.”
MANY people who wanted to vote were prevented from voting. Many votes weren’t counted. There were bomb threats across Atlanta. All of it was enough to swing the election.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
Some Americans voted for this, but the majority did not.
Yes but also us Americans, so proud of our second amendment, are refusing to use it for its intended purpose.
Because the 2A nutjobs were always just that - nutjobs, looking for an excuse to kill people they don’t like.
and the ones i know found legal ways in the krasnov administration
Sure, but a lot of people also don’t want to get vaporized by a dot in the sky. Pretty much impossible to shoot a reaper drone down with small arms.
The only way out is through a general strike (unlikely to happen because the billionaire class has intentionally made everyone too poor, so citizens cannot last very long without pay) or through other countries dumping US bonds.
Is it not the people who allowed this to happen by turning a blind eye? Americans always want to be the face of freedom and democracy but when it counts they do nothing.
The government represents the people, and in the US, the government is a very good reflection of the US as a whole.
Money hungry. It’s all for the resources. They’ll do it relatively bloodless if you let 'em, but they aren’t going to stop till they are made to.
Fucking nazis rising from the grave…
This is the kind of imperialism that caused both world wars. Stop it now, or we all die in inevitable nuclear holocaust.
America are working on their own holocaust, they built concentration camps and a secret masked police
We should stop using the term “America” for the USA. America is so much more than that one evil state.
youre technically right, but that ship has sailed. this isnt an argument worth having.
yhea, USA is so obnoxious we all know what when we mean America we aren’t talking about Mexico or Canada
Not when Trump is done with it.
We did it to the Japanese, we’re doing it to Mexicans. The cages have been there for over a decade with plenty of coverage but no one stopped them.
We have secret police known as undercover officers in unmarked vans. That’s just on the local level of militarized police.
We have the SS known as ICE that was set up to arrest brown people post-9/11.
We gave up freedoms out of fear and now they use that fear to arrest anyone who questions the state.
We’ve been the bad guys since the Patriot act. When people protested it and got beaten by police it was a meme in 2004. “Don’t trade me bro!”
We’re fucked. We only have ourselves to care for. Be kind to your friends and family, don’t listen to a god damn cop.
Yhea, this is not new, it has been planned and prepared by multiple administration for both parties.
Don’t tell us, tell the oligarchs
They’re too busy being more obscenely wealthy than ever before. You’re gonna have to kill a few of them for this to stop.
Free Luigi
They’ve already built survival bunkers. The nuclear Holocaust isn’t a worry for them. It’s part of their plan
The bunkers they built on Maori land? They offered them to new Zealand, remember? Oh… They really thought private land ownership protected them from the government/ people from taking them back at any moment?
Who wants to survive the initial strikes of a nuclear holocaust? I know I don’t. Why duck and cover when you can walk into the light and finally be free.
I mean, surviving long enough to put concrete down their vents has a certain charm to it.
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Gobshite b’jesus
Here’s the problem. War has always been the go-to solution when the USA had major troubles. At this point, I’m convinced World War III is inevitable. Simply because it’s the only way for the USA to try and fix its economy. Otherwise it’s recession or worse once the AI bubble pops.
Can you yanks do that “well armed militia” thing some of you have been banging on about in defense of mowing down children with automatic weapons?
How has it not been made clear to you that the 2nd amendment people ARE Trump supporters.
Plus the firearms people have access to don’t work against the state. They really want people to try, but that’s the problem with left leaning people, we think before we act.
These fuckers are putting MRAVs and other armor in the streets. Your small arms fire just tells them where you are loudly and quickly.
We must never fight on their terms. We must never fight how they are trained.
Drones are the new meta in attacking an authoritarian state.
Build yours today.
Coincidentally, Congress just restricted drone imports about 2 weeks ago…
The import and sale ban does not apply to drones already authorized by the FCC, meaning you can still buy and use existing models (like current DJI drones) until stock runs out, but future models won’t be available.
At least until the state starts making early scourges and corsairs.
You may not have an option, buddy.
Once the US starts invading other countries it’s kind of a one way street
Greenland is threatened again, and after Venezuela, people are listening. Mexico is threatened again and you bet your ass that both Mexican government and US army trained cartels are preparing. Mexico doesn’t have any army to speak of, but Mexico will be the US next Afghanistan. Bodies and blood will flow.
And how do you think it’ll end when the US tries to invade Canada?
Can they please just stop this madness
US started playing Risk without telling the other nations.
I guess just do nothing again? Leave your problems for the rest of us to deal with I guess, it’s the American way
Huge chunks of our problems are Rupert Murdoch (Australia), Leon Musk (South Africa), Peter Thiel (Germany), Congress (Israel), and the POTUS (Russia). Maybe the rest of the world can not bother with America’s problems, but deal with the ones you’ve sent us?
Literally everyone you just named is an American citizen
None were born here.
Ok?
ignoring the decades of previous history of home made American imperialism.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam,…
What?
your quick to blame current problems on foreigners, while ignoring that those people came to the us BECAUSE of its existing imperialistic politics.
They’re at best a symptom of a larger problem.
No, I’m cranky from people upthread putting all of the responsibility on us, when their countries ain’t so sweet and innocent. There’s a line a kilometer wide in fluorescent yellow between the 9/11 attacks back to U.S. imperialism, for instance, but Britain, Netherlands, Germany, and Russia all had their own brands of imperialism which are far more responsible for raising up those men to wealth. This is more a problem of class than nationality.
The current regime COLLABORATED with the Kremlin to get in power. As is a lot of other fascist movements in the world. I think we can safely blame a foreigner.
The one big problem is the lack of desire not to vote.
Those rich foreigners go there for a reason.
And the desire not to vote is a human problem, far from uniquely American. Denial and dissociation are how people get through lots of life, if my own experience as well as conversations with Russian and Chinese friends are any indicator. And the reason that the wealthy foreigners come here is that the U.S. has been the current center of economic power. They would have gone to London in the 19th century.
And, for the record, I don’t actually expect that non-wealthy South Africans can do anything about Musk, but then, neither can non-wealthy Americans.
the desire not to vote is a human problem
Maybe in your mind, but it’s the reason the US is where it’s at.
It isn’t the 19th century. The reason Murdoch went to the US is a fertile ground to milk for that wealth.
Yes, non wealthy Americans could have done something about Musk…voted, because he himself admitted had Harris won, he’d be in jail.
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The US government has made it so a well armed militia cannot overpower them in any shape or form. Want to tell us how to shoot down a drone at 10,000 feet before it vaporizes us? I’m all ears.
The only way this gets fixed is through a (unlikely, by design) general strike, other countries dumping US bonds, or if by some miracle the midterms actually happen.
The US military will be defeated financially, not on the battlefield. In the end, the US empire is collapsing for the same reason every other empire in history has collapsed. Ultimately they are not financially sustainable. When you build your whole economic model on continued expansion and exploitation, the whole thing collapses once you reach hard limits and can no longer expand.
Indeed, well put. It will never be defeated by US citizens, only if the bottom line of the military industrial complex is affected.
There’s a general strike happening after the midterms, its won’t be till 2028 though when that Congress steps in.
I’ll believe it when I see it. People in the US are only getting poorer and more unable to afford to strike (by design).
The people who do that are the people who support Trump.
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I’m far more heavily armed than most. I could outfit my entire block, though they’re already armed; young, old, liberal, MAGA. Yes, even the little old black lady across the street.
What the fuck do you want me to do? I’m sick of these smartass posts. Give me fucking instructions and be clear or STFU.
Fuck me. Saw what looked like an ICE thing in Alabama today, put my Colt .45 under my leg while trying to get my immigrant wife the hell back to Florida. There’s a 12-gauge pump leaning on my desk 24x7 and the AR-15 leans on my nightstand. Being that there’s no ICE around here, want me to hunt some down a couple of states away? Be clear in your instructions.
I now lock my doors, have a gun in reach everywhere I go and live in fear. And you assholes, “LOL! Where my 2A boys at?”
Find some like minded people, take out some ICE personnel at night, take out their vehicles, make them all afraid to round people up.
Yeah this is the part they don’t want to accept because it’s ugly and it’s risky. It takes courage and conviction, and it takes planning and commitment.
There are very few people who can do this, and even fewer who can do it successfully and also live a reasonably normal life without getting caught. The problem is that all the 2A people got convinced they were the vanguard but never actually were told what that means. They bought into the hype but never understood what it really meant. Now when it gets real and it gets ugly they find out they never were that guy, and they just wanted to cosplay as that guy because the guns are cool.
Well then maybe start getting rid of your fucking useless 2A that is responsible for so much death and tragedy if it doesn’t do THE ONE THING that’s supposed to make all that fucking death and tragedy worthwhile
Do explain your understanding of the Constitutional amendment process and how that might play out in 2025 America.
Either answer or shut the fuck up with your facile, childish notions.
“I support the 2A because it would not be political not to support it.” Orrrrrr you just like guns, and fuck the consequences.
They don’t realize that the military that our government has used in other countries will easily be used against us, and has far greater firepower than we could ever have. I’m armed, in case shit goes down, but I will not last long against the military industrial complex in the US. Not to mention a ton of people here are disabled and have not had real healthcare in years.
If just a group of us, or your neighborhood, for example, goes out against the government, the insurrection card will be played and everyone will be arrested, shot, and/or vaporized. It would take a fuck ton of people to rise up, and then you run into the same issue as the general strike. How do you keep people fed? We already can’t do that now, so we’d need to set up the infrastructure to be able to feed everyone while we weather the storm.
Half the yanks support this
Have you petitioned your government to send MANPADS and other concealable, man-portable weaponry to groups in the US?
Because that’s realistically what it would take. The US and NATO countries started helping Ukraine it its fight by sending in these types of man-portable weapons, drones, etc. They’re they type of thing that’s small enough to be snuck over a border in large numbers. And they’re the types of weaponry that could actually allow militia groups in the US, armed with civilian weaponry, to plausibly resist the military in any real capacity. Of course, the only source for this type of weaponry is other nation states.
Realistically, any rebellion would need extensive foreign support. Just like every other rebellion/insurrection that’s happened over the last century or more.
So, I ask again, how many letters, emails, and phone calls have you made to your leaders, encouraging them to send military grade weaponry to US resistance groups?
2016:
‘Mind your own business, it’s our right not to vote’
2025:
‘If you want us to fix our shit send us MANPADS’
I’m going to fill you in on a little secret. Americans are a bunch of fucking pussies now.
Don’t you mean “Redwhiteandblueland”?
Won’t this be a direct attack on Denmark/Europe?
Also an attack against a NATO founding member, by another NATO founding member, making it the most confusing triggering of article 5 requiring the US to come to the aid of Denmark against itself.
I hope the good states ally with NATO to take down Florida, and allow Canada to give Trump’s Ballsroom the British treatment: Gone up in smoke and flame.
I dream of this.
Ballsroom… omg…that’s the first time I’ve seen it called that. That’s hilarious!
Fuck it then, full send it. Life sucks for me so I’ll happily go die in a snow pit defending a fellow EU country.
This threat alone is enough to show how much of a laughable alliance NATO is. America’s veto power already showed the security theater for what it is, but this is the final coup de grâce to the image of NATO being anything more than America’s lapdog.
This is Putin’s wet dream.
Why do liberals continue to assert American fascists acting on behalf of international finance and the O&G industry are always and forever a cat’s paw for the Evil Foreigners?
Is it really that hard to believe American plutocrats might be the primary beneficiary of an American campaign to expand America’s territory?
“We do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense,” Trump told The Atlantic in an interview published Jan. 4, describing the island as reportedly “surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships.”
That’s not what was implied in the comment your replaying to, they just stated it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy and benefit from. Not that he or any other state or non state actor are pulling the strings.
And they are correct, strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US annexing part of a member nation, not to mention the collapse of NATO.
And I’m not defending anyone here, American and its rich rulers are pieces of shit, Putin and the Russian oligarchs are pieces of shit, and even though they aren’t doing anything wrong in this instance the leaders/authorities of every major player in geopolitics are also in fact pieces of shit.
Edit: and before you start, politically I’m best described as an anarchist in the fashion of David Graeber so not a liberal by a long sight
it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy
Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?
strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US
The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.
Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?
In theory, he might not like a heavy foreign naval presence, but Greenland is already NATO aligned. So he’d be trading a NATO aligned region for a US-only region in exchange for a fractured NATO. Sounds like a decent trade. Also keep in mind practically speaking they are probably equally unlikely to actually boost military presence much, and if they really wanted just that, NATO would probably mostly let them do it if USA paid for it, without USA having to take it.
The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.
This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring. A USA versus European NATO scenario would be his dream scenario. See “Foundations of Geopolitics”, where it’s mostly about getting Russia’s opponents to fracture and ruin alliances:
Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.
This is also the book that makes annexation of Ukraine the top priority, that it must be secured before the broader Russian agenda can be executed. It also says they need to make the UK isolated from the broader EU. They know that above all else alliances must be broken for them to stand a chance to seize power.
This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring.
A lot of the Trump plan for Greenland’s annexation revolves around love-bombing the existing inhabitants and effectively buying the island out. Incidentally, not unlike the Chinese plan for Taiwan or the original Russian plan for Crimea. This follows domestic efforts on the island for full independence that Danish intelligence believes has been exacerbated by American media and intelligence interference.
Obviously, ended up backfiring. But you don’t need a NATO invasion so much as a Color Revolution, which Americans have (historically) been pretty good at setting up.
However you slice it, Russia doesn’t benefit from this in any material sense. And constantly holding the Russians up as a boogeyman when the crooks leading this scheme are squarely rooted inside the White House, not the Kremlin, is as obtuse as it is xenophobic. “Everything I don’t like is The Bad Foreigners” is the mentality that produced Trumpism to begin with. Liberals leaning into it only guarantee more Trumps into our future.
lol done here you’re not worth any more effort, with you being daft as a brush and all that.
Yes, but they won’t do shit when it happens.
It’s like she’s trying so desperately to make herself an accessory to war crimes. Why you would aspire to be Elana Ceausescu?
Well, in America, war crimes usually make you a profit and get excused/vetod/protected by the govt. So there’s that reason.
It’s not like Americans are going to hold any of these people accountable. They’ve already failed to do so after Trump’s first term.
I think similar circumstances (at least in terms of frustration with there seeming to be no justice for the corruption and crimes they committed while in power) was what eventually drove people to join the revolution against Ceausescu.
I always felt it was kind of a barbaric way to handle the situation, but in hindsight, perhaps I was being too hasty to judge.
Who’s to say what will happen in the U.S. I would like to believe democracy will prevail and maybe if the right people come to power, the people in this administration will actually be held accountable through traditional means. That’s the most optimistic scenario but also probably least likely to happen.
There’s a good chance the government just crumbles completely, especially with the Trump administration trying to destroy what remains of the rule of law both internationally and domestically. On the one hand it seems like that is their game plan, but on the other there are several ways it could backfire on them, even without some kind of external uprising against them. Once they lose any expectation of legal protection, we could also end up with some faction within the administration turning against the others in order to take control. Who the fuck knows. Wild card.
Yes, anything can happen, in theory. In practice, and based on what we’ve seen historically in the US as of late, no one will be held accountable. America is ok with Fascism, and they’re OK with war crimes, especially against foreign nations. They’re generally proud to be bullies and to be asserting dominance with their elected thug.
These aren’t slanderous accusations or anything, it’s just the blunt assessment from a foreigner, given what’s going on. There’s a subset of Americans who go on social media and lament their country’s actions, and those people tend to get either offended, or depressed/resigned, when you highlight America voted for, and are enthusiastic about, their fascist dictatorship. But that minority outlier does not change that Americans en masse still support their government, even when their government has become a pretty clear fascist dictatorship to the rest of the world. Most of the country is cheering on war crimes and crimes against humanity. It comes across fairly explicitly as such through multiple media sources, from multiple countries etc.
Publicly, the rest of the world leaders are cagey about comments on Americas recent turn, because they’re all worried that America will attack them next. That’s not how your relationship with ‘allies’ should be, and many are moving to shore up militaries and cut ties with America as part of this shift. That sort of thing won’t change, even if America manages to have another election and a more ‘normal’ democrat wins that time around – because the world knows full well that America could flip flop the next time, back to even more hardcore fascist leanings.
Distraction.
The content slop for the hogs.
But it’s also something Steven Miller has been sincerely lobbying for
according to some danish journalists the idea was started by Ronald Lauder, some US billionaire. (he has some companies that use water from greenland or some shit)
It’s even on his Wikipage…
That will be the end of NATO, from then on it’s unscripted territory for Europe.
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Meh, Europe has plenty of arms capability to see off Russia without the US.
But can we fight Rússia and the US simultaneously?
We need socialism
The US is great at invading other countries
It has not the first clue how to safely keep one.
In the past they toppled other legitimate governments by using the CIA to cause some sort of revolution and kill the legitimate rulers.
None of that has lasted, and in the case of Iran directly led to the current theocratic dictatorship (Iran today is directly the result of US actions)
If the US invades either one of Canada, Mexico, or Greenland, it’ll be fucked. Friends and allies won’t turn up to help, it might causea fucking world war instead.
I don’t understand why nobody stops this. Even the CEO’s and all just be able to see that this isn’t going to end well for anyone
The US will invade more countries and the world won’t do shit.
But if the CIA has to do another coup that is their job security.
None of this large scale shit is ever meant to solve anything. Just extract value.
I dont understand why nobody stops this.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas. - The American Public
Historically, the poors loosw the most. So maybe it’s worth the gamble. So much technology is available to really 1984 the population when it is in a more manageable number.
It also helps to have gentleman agreements with the rich on the other side. Elon has a satellite and can communicate without you knowing. So there’s that.
The US is great at invading other countries
Be careful. The US actually is fantastic at invading other countries. At least we’re really good at the “bomb the existing regime to hell and topple it” part of the process. We’re great at invading other countries; we’re just not so good at running them after.
But this is the type of invasion the US actually is pretty good at. The US isn’t proposing taking invading and then hoping to set up an independent democracy that for some reason remains our friend. That’s what we tried in Iraq, and it failed because you can’t just impose your will on a foreign population. You can’t make someone love you. You can’t make a nation willingly adopt your style of government.
But invading Greenland? This isn’t a Middle East misadventure, invading a highly populated country. This is the US coming to a territory and saying, “this is ours now.” This means a few things.
First, winning hearts and minds doesn’t matter. Once annexed and legally part of the US, if they try to break away, they’re not just insurgents, they’re rebels. Look at General Sherman for how the US has treated rebel territories. In Iraq, the theme was always, “at the end of the day, we’re not going to be running this place, we need the Iraqis to be able to run it, hopefully without hating our guts.” With Greenland, the theme would be, “we’re here for the land and resources. This is US territory now. If some Americans want to secede from the rest of America, well we know historically how to handle that…”
Second, do you know why Greenland’s mining resources are so underdeveloped? It’s because there are only 56,000 Greenlanders. If they wanted to seriously open up their mining resources, they would have to bring in outside companies to really develop them. And this would require bringing in large numbers of foreign workers, mining experts, their families, etc. Realistically, the existing Greenlander population would likely become a minority group. Hell, the existing number of Greenlanders is so small, a rebellion could likely be dealt with by the US criminal justice system, the military wouldn’t even be required.
The annexation of Greenland would look nothing like the invasion of Iraq or even a hypothetical annexation of Canada or Mexico. Making the territory a US state would mean any American citizen could move there. Any company could bring in workers to start exploiting mining claims. It would look more like the annexation of Texas. (Where the US had thousands of US citizens illegally move to the sparsely populated territory, and then push for annexation.) And if there was any kind insurgency, the US would treat it far harsher than it did the insurgencies of Iraq or Afghanistan.
That’s not to say this would be a good thing, it wouldn’t. In many ways it would be much worse than the invasion of Iraq. It would be far more brutal and would result in the existing Greenlanders becoming a small ethnic minority in what is now their own country. And any insurgency would be brutally repressed in the manner of the US Civil War. And while insurgencies can pull off wonders, scale still matters. Whatever tiny insurgency a group of 56,000 people, people completely dependent on imported food and goods, can manage to produce? That is not something that can credibly stand up to the US military. Hell, it couldn’t even stand up to the FBI. They could raise some heroic 5,000 man rebel force, and the US could just have them all arrested.
At the end of the day, 56,000 people cannot resist the might of 330 million. Smaller nations can drive out larger foreign invaders, but only if they’re at least of a similar order of magnitude of population. Ukraine can plausibly fight off Russia. A tiny city state can’t.
Two things: One: The US economy will go down the drain the moment they try.
I think Ukraine showed us you don’t need much to destroy mining operations… And if the local population refuses to open mines, it’s because they don’t want to become an Alaska.
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More shit from Magda Goebbels.
I never thought I’d be on the side opposing the US in WWIII, but hey ho, here we go.
(And this might even mean I’m on the side opposite my own government depending on how things progress here in the meantime.)
As an American … I never thought that either 🫤🔫
I don’t quite understand how there are people that ever thought the U.S. was good. How could anyone look at their zealotous imperial superiority masturbation and not just be struck with revulsion is beyond me. It’s like the west collectively drank their kool aid and is only now slowly, and tentatively starting to wake up to how fucking insane that country is.
I’m 100% certain that they could invade and occupy Greenland and the rest of Europe would still be like “yeah but like… they’re the good guys?”
Interestingly the US is the least kool aid drinking of Western nations when it comes to managing ‘great power’ realpolitik. Its unabashedly imperialistic with carefully constructed domestic propaganda. It effectively convinces its subjects of its (false) moral legitimacy, generally speaking.
Europe is the most kool aid drunk at the moment. Stagnation, impending demographic collapse and vastly overestimating their standing on the global stage. Trumps crass handling of relations with Europe has been a wake up call there to say the least. Alexander Stubb’s (president of Finland) speech at the G20 was hopefully heard by and reflected on by EU leaders. Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US, mainly though complacency.
Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US
Yeah, during WW2, that’s not news to anybody
It was mostly other imperialist countries and their vassal states, why wouldn’t they accept another of their own?
I’m talking more on an individual basis. Countries I get.
Nationalism then. People love to feel important or like they’re part of something, even if they put no actual effort towards that end. Just identify with the place you happened to be born and convince yourself its victories are your own.
