Dems lost the election for many reasons. Supporting Ukraine was definitely not one of them tho.

They shed 12M votes between 2020 and 2024, in large part thanks to failing to deliver on promises to their constituents. While Biden was throwing up his hands and insisting he couldn’t afford to relieve student debt, extend health care subsidies at the tail end of COVID, or defend the civil and labor rights of his constituents, he was shoveling money out the back door for Israel and Ukraine.

Russian bribery and blackmail only works on politicians

They work just fine on American business interests. But then American businesses are perfectly happy to bribe people directly. You had Elon promising to cut $1M checks to GOTV in swing states and TPUSA dropping much of its $85M war-chest across the critical swing state of Arizona in the run up to the election. Both groups pulled their fortunes from the post-COVID asset inflation of the American plutocracy. And they spent the money to buy up voters that Biden had allowed to languish.

Always curious to hear how NK has no electricity, but they manage to hack the systems of a trillion dollar conglomerate on the opposite side of the Pacific Ocean.

The contradictions abound.

You can only do so much with forced labour.

There’s a certain irony in this statement, coming from folks who consume it regularly.

Yeah, and its curious to see you getting downvotes for the intra-departmental outsourcing that’s been rampant through the tech sector for a while now.

What we’ve got isn’t some nefarious plot by the Chinese-Adjacent to invade our precious trillion dollar tech industry. Its the deliberate consequence of sanctioning a country to the hilt to devalue local labor, then exploiting the sanctioned locals to extract labor at below market rate.

It’s the steady support of Ukraine that would cause Russia to turn back one way or another.

Has it worked in the last twelve years? NATO has been fully in support of Ukraine since Maiden. Nothing has improved as a result.

If trump and the gop hadn’t been such idiots, and just held the line, Russians would see no possibly advantageous end game and putin would probably be in exile or hung by his balls in red square by now

Dems lost the general election in 2024 because they were more interested in bailing out Ukraine than covering domestic priorities.

These people have made their own bed.

Starving the supply to Ukraine wouldn’t stop this war.

The tens of billions squandered on an ill-managed war would have been far better spent on refugee services and industrial development in the surrounded Eastern European block to absorb displaced peoples.

Rather than aiding actual Ukrainians and fortifying the NATO block against further Russian aggression, Europeans have pissed away a meager military surplus trying to bleed Russia into defeat. Meanwhile, the 7.7m displaced Ukrainians face joblessness, homelessness, poverty and a multitude of legal hurdles and sanctions that prevent them from resettlement.

If Europeans actually gave a shit about “Ukraine” the population rather than “Ukraine” the physical territory, we wouldn’t see Polish political leaders denying Ukrainian expats civil rights

A steady and resolute supply of arms and other resources to Ukraine would allow Ukraine to make Russia’s efforts clearly useless

This is a bald-faced lie. Arms into Ukraine didn’t help the country in 2018 when Trump championed it. It failed to grant Ukraine the ability to retake the Donbas, much less Crimea, even when Putin’s own mercenary company turned on him.

And that’s what this fight is supposed to be about. Zelensky’s government wants the Donbas back. Putin is refusing. And now we’re asking… how many more Ukrainians to die over a real estate negotiation? 10k? 50k? Another 100k?

We’re already talking about a war that’s killed roughly 400k Ukrainians and displaced a full quarter of the country’s 44M population. And we want to keep this up until when exactly? Until Russia stops existing? Until we get a more favorable territory settlement? Until the next US Presidential Election?

This is the same stupid shit we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Vietnam and Korea, too. An endless war against an Ontologically Evil enemy that fuels a massive market bubble for the MIC and still ends in dismal failure.

But Mercs? Come on now.

You’ve got a lot of folks drafted into this conflict on false pretexts. Others are being lured in the face of collapsing economies at home.

Men are fighting on the frontline of a war they have no stake in, with weapons they have little training to wield. Sky News examines how South Africans are being tricked into joining Russians on the frontline in Ukraine.

Thousands of South American soldiers head to Ukraine front line looking for better pay

This war is exploiting the poor and the “undesirables” on a global scale.

At the end of the day, Ukraine is the victim in this war

Ukraine isn’t a person. And the persistent belief that real estate is people is so fucking Libertarian it chills the soul.

There are plenty of Ukrainian natives victimized by the conflict, both through the violence inflicted by invading Russians and the callous ineptitude of the reining Ukrainian leadership. Now that much of the adult male population of the country has been exhausted as cannon fodder, both countries are drawing in surplus males from the international community.

Starving the beast of conflict should be the goal of the international community, not fanning the flames. But because so many of these countries see this conflict as a profit center, and surplus men in their own countries as a threat, we’ve created a real economic incentive to fund the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and the internationally unemployed on one budget line.

The only benefit to beliefs like yours

You’d rather live a righteous lie than recognize the bitter truth? This isn’t a matter of benefit, its a matter of dispensing with delusions. This conflict is not about reconquering the Donbas from an Evil Enemy. It is about war-profiteering and refugee disposal.

I don’t think anyone expects there to be less bloodshed or an end to violence.

That’s right there in the headline. “Money today or blood tomorrow”

Where are the calls for Russia to lay down arms and retreat?

Brother, its all over the EU. But its a hard sell for a country that’s gaining territory in the face of a fracturing and deteriorating coalition of (increasingly il)liberal western states.

I don’t want violence but to act like it doesn’t have a place in our world?

It’s entirely insincere to pretend more arms to Ukraine will result in less bloodshed. At best, you can argue “at least the right people will die” assuming you squint and tacitly ignore all the conscripts and mercenaries and civilians involved in this conflict.

But it’s insane to pretend we’re heading towards an end to violence doing exactly what NATO has been doing for the last three years.

Ukraine aren’t the ones that started the war

That hasn’t spared them from dying in it.

“We need money to buy the weapons”

“Whatcha gonna do with the weapons?”

“Make a lot more blood splatters”

Shit like this makes me miss the USSR.

there is actual evidence…

Satellite imagery and open-source geographic data

Buddy…

Amnesty International verified the human right abuses independently.

Thanks for that

Israelis love massacring people at funerals almost as much as the US loves bombing weddings.

genocide denial

Brother, get your ass to Afghanistan and say that to any of the survivors of the US occupation.

You don’t care what genocide is. You just want some foreigner to eat your sins.

Also I’m not American

Did you clap for Yaroslav Hunka with the rest of your ilk?

this is absolutely normal and should be protected

I mean, to take a line from Inglorious Bastards

I ‘magine you’re gonna take off that handsome-lookin’ S.S. uniform of yours, ain’tcha?.. That’s what I thought. Now that I can’t abide… I mean, if I had my way… you’d wear that goddamn uniform for the rest of your pecker-suckin’ life.

I much prefer the Nazis who are wearing their beliefs on their sleeves.

Only problem is that they don’t ever come out of the woodwork until they’ve got safety in numbers.

The problem Germany has in the modern day isn’t a bunch of schlubs throwing up Nazi salutes. Its the much larger pool of industrial and media insiders who have goaded them into it, financed their little fascist friend-groups, and sponsored them to seize power to the benefit of the far-right plutocracy.

Liberals panick when they see the former, but they’re constantly trying to win over the latter. You can’t clean your house of insects if you keep trying to make friends with the Queen Bee.

‘Lebenslüge’, the myth that German racism began and ended with the Holocaust

You can’t re-nazify if you never de-nazified to begin with. Nazis were rebranded and re-incorporated into the new East and West German governments practically before the smoke was clear. While the Russians were quick to round up and execute more Nazis than their ratline-loving Capitalist peers, both governments’ police services were thick with former Wauffen SS officers by the turn of the decade.

We had Hitler’s Chief of Staff running NATO, ffs.

Despite his extensive knowledge and participation in war crimes, he later became a general for West Germany and served as head of the West German military from 1957 to 1961 as well as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee from 1961 to 1964.

China is #2 in military spending after the USA.

China plus the next 13 countries on the list can’t total US military spending. And I don’t even know if Israel + Ukraine should count, given how much of their military budget is just US foreign aid.

As for harassing brown people: well there’s the whole Uyghur thing.

The original “evidence” of 1 million Uyghurs in concentration camps stems from US propaganda outlets and far-right “researchers” like Adrian Zenz. These numbers could not be independently verified, and other media sources that repeat these claims merely cite each other or this original, US-backed research. Zenz himself is a known antisemitic conspiracy theorist, far-right evangelical, and Islamophobe who has written that the Jews who refuse to convert to Christianity will be wiped out by God in a “fiery furnace”. Why would a German with such hateful views toward Jews and Muslims be such a champion of Uyghur rights? It was later found that Zenz had received $625,000 from Donald Trump’s Chief Strategist Steve Bannon to help him fabricate the story of Uyghur genocide.

Brother, you are sucking from the tailpipe of propaganda while your country is drowning in the blood of native peoples.

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786968298636423210

Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture

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COST!