I wish people sincerely thought this way.

we do not have verification that more than 8000 Uighurs died

The big difference between the Chinese War on Terror in Xinjiang and the American War on Terror in North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia is that Hu Jintao (he was The Good One, can’t speak ill of Hu) Xi Jinping did it using the Dark Arts of Communism rather than the Liberty-imbued Democracy Bombs of Capitalism.

Therefore, every Uighur killed in a police raid on a mosque or who died in a detention camp in Loupu is worse than any ten an American killed with a Shock And Awe bombing run or tortured to death at Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay.

So that 8,000 is closer to 80,000. And when you use the Black Book of Communism math to count the unborn decendents of those dead Muslims (whom we love, because Americans universally condemn all forms of Islamophobia and embrace all religions equally) we’re talking about 800,000. Maybe even 8M. Certainly possible it’s more than that, depending on which libertarian think tank or AI chatbot is running the numbers.

Also I haven’t heard about China bombing girls schools.

China has killed more than 100 Million Muslim Girls. Adrian Zenz told me so.

That argument could have been made with obama-era Amereica

Barack Obama Is A War Criminal

During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.

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The drone operations extended to Somalia and Yemen in 2010 and 2011, resulting in more destructive results. Under the belief they were targeting al-Qaida, President Obama’s first strike on Yemen killed 55 people including 21 children, 10 of which were under the age of five. Additionally, 12 women, five of them pregnant, were also among those who were murdered in this strike. These blundered acts of murder by not only President Obama, but the U.S. government, are morally reprehensible.

Even more civilian casualties came out of Afghanistan throughout Barack Obama’s time in office. In 2014, Obama began removing troops currently deployed in the country. However, instead of this action by the president being one in a pursuit of peace and stability in the region, it only acted as an opportunity to drastically increase air warfare. Afghanistan had war rained upon them by U.S. bombardment, with the administration viciously dropping 1,337 weapons on Afghanistan in 2016. In total that year, the Obama administration dropped 26,171 bombs (drone or otherwise) across seven countries: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. The U.S., in cooperation with its allies including the Afghan government, killed 582 civilians on average annually from 2007 to 2016.

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With the exception of the wars themselves, the claim that former President Barack Obama is a war criminal also lies within the double-tap initiative. Double-tap drone strikes are as disturbing as they sound; these attacks are follow-up strikes on first responders as they rush to the bombed area trying to assist any survivors. In 2012, an attack on the Shawal Valley aimed at Taliban commander Sadiq Noor reportedly killed up to 14 people in a double-tap drone strike. These attacks are both morally and legally reprehensible, as they are conscious acts of murder against civilians.

So much of what Obama presided over was an extension of the Bush, Clinton, and Reagan policies which were themselves extensions of our wars in Vietnam and Korea. What separates Obama from Trump largely boils down to volume. But the policies were no different than Putin’s illegal actions in Crimea and Chechnya. Or Netanyahu’s engineered famine in Gaza and the West Bank.

The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA

American Exceptionalism strikes again.

You’ve got Americans blowing up hospitals and daycares in Iran, shooting up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela, sieging Cuba to the point of mass starvation, and facilitating genocides from Libya to Afghanistan. But the pre-programmed western response is “I think the other countries are worse!” That’s all that matters. You heard the other guys were worse.

Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.

Sure. The same as America.

unauditable US defence budget

Crazy how that budget is just a black hole and nobody can do anything about it. Wish the legislature had some kind of oversight ability, or at least the power to control how money is spent.

“We don’t need your charity, we need the pin code to your debt card.”

This is like when John McCain said he didn’t need Social Security, but kept cashing the checks

a regime that can’t be removed from power whipping women

Do you know how the IRGC got into power to begin with? And does the existence of Regime Change make corporal punishment acceptable, somehow?

it’s a barbaric regime and the Iranian people are sick of the tollahs wasting their nations wealth

How quickly we’ve moved from the inhumanity of prisoner abuse (in Muslim countries) to the inhumanity of Iranians spending their oil money wrong.

Crazy how it all comes back to money with you sick fucks.

The Iranian regime are misogynistic, homophobic warmongers.

The American media paints them as such to whip up domestic hate and justify mass murder.

It’s so much easier to show a flattened building or bloody backpack if you can tell yourself “these are savage animals, not people, and they got what they deserved”

A female singer was recently whipped

A story about an appeals case centering on a 2024 indecency conviction was resurrected by the US media to justify the ongoing war.

The singer wasn’t “recently whipped”. She was recently in court contesting the charges.

But let’s not infantilise the Iranian islamic regime and system

What do you think “infantilise” means and why does it justify sponsoring terrorism inside the country?

keir starmer ruling under the current day judicial system of the Islamic Republic of Iran

The state of Reform UK and it’s enormous polling advantage suggest we might get exactly that

Well, he’s the wrong kind of Muslim. If he was a Saudi or a Jordanian or one of Israel’s pet Muslims in Ra’am, all these critiques would vanish.

I have a friend in Iran, his cousin died in the protests

Channel 14’s Tamir Morag says arms from ‘foreign actors’ let protesters kill hundreds of officers; Iranian FM: ‘Trump should now know exactly where to go to stop killings’

I actually have a friend from elementary school who was killed by an Iraqi IED. Really sad, but also… he should have been going to college, not getting in shootouts with ex-Ba’athist insurgents on the other side of the planet.

Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed

Where did you get this information?

It’s definitely losing it’s grip. But genuinely frightening to see how many people will still fall back on “Yeah, but I’m glad they’re killing the correct kind of foreigners this time”. As soon as Democrats retake the White House, your head is going to spin to see how many people enthusiastically support more bombings.

Neoliberalism at its peak

let’s not forget all of their own people they killed

It was crazy to hear US news reporting “Iran has killed 30k, 50k, 90k of their own people!!” based on unnamed sources and Facebook memes. Meanwhile, the journalists on the ground in Gaza reporting on the genocide were systematically assassinated by the Israeli government, while hospitals were obliterated, and communications severed. And the US national media response became “information is unreliable so we’re just not going to say a number anymore”.

I wonder how many Iranians killed during the current US/Israel air raids and infrastructure annihilation will be retroactively counted as “The Iranians killed themselves”, once American journalists finally make their way back into the country.

The messenger is awful

I’ll take ten Mojtaba Khameneis over one Pete Hegseth. Hell, I’ll take a Khamenei over Keir Starmer, at this point.

Of course, he’s little more than a figurehead under the current Iranian government, given that their Parliament can’t safely convene and their military is fully operating via the Mosaic Strategy of decentralized retaliation against ongoing US/Israeli bombardment. I’m not sure why people have decided he’s a bad leader, given that he hasn’t made any meaningful leadership decisions since taking office.

But I guess he’s Muslim and unseasonably tan, so that’s enough to make him a bad guy.