• DaMummy@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Maybe it’s time to see Eurovision for what it really is. I think Americans are starting to see what the Nobel Peace Prize is all about as well.

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        5 hours ago

        It’s political.

        Think about it like wrestling. Everybody is a character, nothing is real, but they really need you to believe it is. It’s all an act to keep your attention.

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        I’m not exactly sure what they’re getting at, but I did see someone from the Nobel Peace Prize committee call for Maduro’s removal just as the US has been ramping up its “anti-narcotics” operations in around the oil and lithium rich country, complete with extra judicial killings of Venezuelans, telling other nations to avoid their airspace and very recently seizing an oil tanker ship…

        So it kinda feels like the Nobel Peace Prize committee is trying to add justification to the cause for war that the US is trying to drum up, which is wantonly egregious, so maybe they’re implying that both the Nobel committee and Eurovision are tacit supporters and backers of imperialism.

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          6 hours ago

          USA pllitics aside, the world would be a little brighter with Maduro and his regime out of Venezuela

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            Why is that? The woman who won the prize is a car right extremist. What has Maduro done badly?

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            So you say. But it’s up to the people of Venezuela do decide that and then act upon it, not the deranged USA administration.

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              Of course, but thats another thing. Americans are sick people.

              The problem with ellection in Venezuela is that they are stupidly rigged. It is said that Maduro lost the last one 70-30, and expatriates were not allowed to vote alleguing bs reasons. (Those are ~5 million voters that were heavily sided against maduro). If thats true, Venezuela has to “decide” by storming the streets at this point

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                I thought I read they did storm the streets of Caracas, during the last Trump admin, in support of Maduro, during a previous coup attempt.

                Like the US got caught sponsoring mercenaries and trying to ship in a load of guns to start a coup. I don’t imagine everything is peachy in Venezuela, but I do wonder how much of that is due to meddling by foreign powers versus corruption.

                News in Latin America is hard to trust one way or another, because it always seems like it’s being twisted to support one goal or another. Like, I know the state media is biased, but I also know the Western media is eager to support bloodthirsty actors who want to pillage their resources.

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                Venezuela has to “decide” by storming the streets at this point

                Still up to them. Being a foreigner you may even cheer for either side, as long as you don’t send armies there to plunder and murder.

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                  I will state this cause i think it may be subject of misinterpretation: i stated “decide” in comas because maduro lost the last 2 elections (the first one may be arguable, the second one was scandalous) and nothing changed, not because they should be “coopted to decide” or something.

                  And just to clarify, the USA should stay out of venezuela

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            6 hours ago

            in most cases yes… but not if the plan is just to turn Venezuela into an all you can eat buffet for the American regime

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          I mean Maduro is pretty bad. If that statement was just about him, I don’t see the issue. They seemed to quite dislike everything Trump was doing.

          The most confusing part about that statement was Americans seeing what the Nobel prize is. They especially should stfu after electing that shit-show XD

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            The peace prize did seem pretty pointless since Obama won it for doing nothing. Like don’t get me wrong I voted for the guy and wanted him to win, but it was pretty dang empty to give him the peace prize, especially since he then went on to be in charge while some really ugly stuff went down.

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        Reading about the “Cultural Cold War” will very quickly explain it to you. They’re both a propaganda arm of the MIC.

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    The ESC winner of 2024…

    The attack on Israel was 2023…

    Israel has been in Gaza since 2023… This was already brutal in 2024…

    Israel was part of ESC in 2023 and 2024…

    Looks like a publicity stunt…

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      Yeah that’s the whole point dummy people want them to get the fuck out lol.

      At least bots are kind of forced to make retarded illogical statements to support their regimes, makes them easy to spot.

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        Winning and refusing to accept the prize would be a much more powerful message with the biggest audience.

        This is a stunt.

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    I kind of find it funny all these countries with genocidal history getting on their high horse through a music competition, y’all a disaster.

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      Fun fact: 100% of countries have done fucked up shit.

      I’m not pointing that out because I think that excuses any of the fucked up shit. It doesn’t.

      I’m pointing it out because by the standards of “shut up if your country was ever genocidal”, only people from countries with very little power and influence are allowed to try to do or say anything to make the world a better place for those of us not in favor of genocide.

      TL;DR: STFU with that ultra reductionist edgelord bullshit. You’re not helping and you’re not being clever.

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          Are you saying that indigenous people never warred with others/neighbors and wiped out other tribes? Never raped, never put their enemies into slavery or sold them to other indigenous, or never tortured those they were at war with?

          Because, to me, it sounds like you’re making that case with your comment and that is a bullshit case to be made. Humans are historically awful.

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              Are you suggesting that indigenous peoples have never done any of what I said above?

              I’m not trying to guilt you into sympathizing with colonization. I’m trying to get you to understand that, “I’m indigenous, so only bad things ever happened to people like me because of colonization” is a naive idea to have.

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                No, you’re trying to equate to genocidal, “wipe out all indigenous people” with let me check… warring tribes can grouping them all as “all countries do bad things.” Which vastly outweighs the evils of the two approach.

                You’re not trying to guilt him, you’re just trying to wash away your colonialist guilt than anything else.

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                  No. I’m really not trying to equate that at all. Using “I’m indigenous” as an excuse to imply that you’re beyond criticism is bullshit. Everyone can be criticized. Everyone has skeletons.

                  You’re trying to pull words out of nothing. All I was responding to was the whole “ Im indigenous so 🤷‍♂️” comment.

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        Perspective, you are being very reductionist. Not that i disagree necessarily. Creating a country rarely came from lets all get together and sing happy songs, but there are vast differences among formation of countries, colonialism, and genocide.