You should see a therapist

Someone hit up the Saudis, they were pretty down last time

The part where it’s raising your arm at an angle. You dislike it because of what it means and signifies, but imagine some group took ‘flipping the bird’ to align with their ideology and in 20 years your kid gets arrested for flipping someone off.

Obviously a silly example but you have to look past the context and think about what are we really doing here? Jailing people for a gesture?

That’s fucking wild.

Fair point, best explained response yet.

Cool dude. You sound like a battered house wife that sticks up for her abusive husband.

Excellent, then I’m all for it.

Literal hate crimes, I’m all for. A gesture with your arm gets you 12 months? That’s too much, regardless of its origin or meaning.

I’ll say, likely wasting my digital breath, I do not support any sort of Nazi bullshit or affiliates. But truly, outlawing gestures is a next level, knee jerk reaction to a problem they don’t know what else to do to solve.

I’ve been hearing it for years, always argued against it.

Trump created the marines?

Do what? Governments need to do more.

You’re saying Bill Gates should meddle in international affairs to stop Musk?

Fucking lol

Okay?

He’s certainly worse, Biden didn’t piss off Canada and Mexico immediately.

I can’t really speak on internal US policies, i.e. whether Biden’s inaction or Trump’s wild actions are overall worse for the nation but internationally, Trump is far far far worse.

It’s not even a competition.