They didn’t try to remove 32-bit support. One Fedora contributor floated it as an idea, and the press/comment sections went wild.

I had issues with his trying out Linux series, but that is not one of them, and I’m tired of seeing him be shat on because of it.

Firstly, he was trying to install Steam via instructions he found on PopOS’s website. Even if he did do something stupid (and I would argue he didn’t really), it is not the fault of the end user that doing that can completely fuck your install. It should not be possible to do that, yet it was due to a PopOS packaging error.

Yes, he did receive a generic warning about how by proceeding to attempt this installation, he could cause damage. Hidden in a wall of text of hundreds of package names.

But do you know what else has scary messages like that? Android. Windows. MacOS. A whole host of smart devices. Any new user could easily think that message was normal and would appear any time you try to install something via the terminal.

End users are used to seeing scary messages like that, and they’ve become numb to them. Deflecting criticism of that PopOS bug by saying “well there was a warning, so actually it’s the end users that are idiots and PopOS/Linux is actually perfect” doesn’t help anybody.

AMD has learned that laptop gamers don’t give a shit about anything that’s not Nvidia. Their dGPU laptop solutions were never desirable for the general market, so they’ve instead started focussing a lot more on stronger APUs.

If you want something stable but up-to-date, Fedora is a very good option. Plus it has a bunch of “Spins”. The two main ones are Gnome and KDE Plasma, but there is a bunch more, and they’re all officially supported.

Then there’s also Arch. Arch should not be considered stable, but anecdotally I’ve not heard many problems with it in the past few years, so you’d probably be fine. I’d go with EndeavourOS or CatchyOS if you want Arch without the tedious setup process.

A lot of the Linux community are the most obnoxious entitled scumbags I’ve ever met in my life.

The amount of people that get very demanding or hate developers (who are donating their time for free) when they don’t cater their project towards that user’s desires… it bothers me. It’s even present in this very thread. It’s an extremely popular viewpoint to have, and it seriously bugs me.

If you don’t like how a project is run, don’t use it. It’s their project.

The nexus mods app is native. You’re thinking of Vortex, their old one.

The data ☝️

I’m always surprised by how low the Flatpak share is.

They said they’d probably have to if Fedora removed support for 32-bit packages, which was a proposal to the Fedora Community (who rejected the proposal).

Long-term, I imagine Valve will have to bundle a 32-to-64-bit abstraction layer, like they already do with a win-to-linux abstraction layer (Proton), and are preparing to do with an x86-to-ARM abstraction layer.

Distros do not want to each duplicate the work of maintaining 32-bit support for all eternity.

Easy thing to say when you’re not the one donating your time for free.

I love what Valve is doing for Linux, but longer term, the onus is on them to solve the 32-bit compatibility layer issue (a-la Proton for win-to-linux, as well as their upcoming x86-to-ARM layer).

Expecting all distros (who again, are staffed mostly by volunteers) to do this work separately (i.e. duplicating all that work), for all time, is a big ask.

Having heard about some of the difficulty in budgeting for a charity my friend works at that is also reliant on donations, this isn’t surprising.

She said things would be managed more effectively if there were predictable payments coming in, even if they were taking in less money in total.

It appears Gnome, and probably others, are the same.

Trouble is, I too am a “I like donating to things in lump sums so my bank account is less cluttered” kinda guy.

Note that this is just a proposal that the Fedora community wants feedback on.

Even if it does go ahead, this is minimum 1 year away from happening.

Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if this was meant as a “hurry up and move away from Steam still being a 32-bit app, Valve!” bit of brinkmanship.

I’m somewhat surprised there isn’t a Fedora there, it’s a pretty great and up-to-date distro. And pretty popular.

I’m also surprised Flatpak isn’t higher!

Manjaro keeps popping up on devices, and I don’t understand how they keep getting these deals.

It’s seemingly the only thing they are competent at doing.

12% faster on average, with anywhere from a 30-320% battery life improvement.

Just from a software change.

That is massive. You’d usually need a hardware upgrade for an improvement like that.

To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.

Well I’m so sorry you’re offended (not really), but price is relevent when you’re comparing products.

If I was looking at a comparison between two watches and the reviewer brings up price, I’d consider that relevant information.

saying that the price being free adds to the word “massive” being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.

Again, you’re just so wrong.

If product A is better than product B, that’s bad enough. If product A also happens to be free while product B costs over $100, then that’s extremely notable and should be brought up in a comparison.

Maybe it’s your line of thinking that’s just kinda dumb for real?

It’s just like people don’t want to converse man.

You’re such a victim. Oh wait, it’s you that started being hostile and dismissive. You’re the one who doesn’t want to have a respectful discussion.

When you talk like that, you shouldn’t expect people to treat you nicely in return. People are under no obligation to treat you nicely after you treat them poorly.

It’s pretty clear that talking to you is useless

Indeed. You do seem to struggle with differing opinions, as well as the definitions of words, like how you struggle to understand there’s a massive difference in performance between Windows and SteamOS on this handheld.

I’m not glorifying shit, I’m just pointing out how very, very wrong you are.

A 12% performance boost on average, simultaneously with a battery life improvement of up to 320%, requiring nothing but a software change is massive, especially when that software is free.

Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

Are you purposely being a clown? I brought up price, because it’s relevant in comparing two things.

Why are you so butt hurt that SteamOS is massively better on some handheld you probably don’t even own? Why are you so hurt by this news?

Yes. Massively. And I don’t know why you’re doubling down on being wrong.

12% faster with anywhere from 34% to 320% better battery life, and $130 cheaper is massively better, especially on the exact same hardware.

The difference is astonishing, tbh. I’d have expected a negligible difference.

Massively better was completely correct, and you are wrong to state otherwise. It’s that simple.

It’s certainly less stable than Gnome or Cinnamon, but to be fair, Plasma 6 is very stable compared to Plasma 4 and how Plasma 5 was for a long while.

I use Gnome on my PCs usually, but Plasma probably seems a lot more familiar to people who are used to Windows, which I imagine was a consideration.

I had the exact same thought. By the sounds of their announcement, yes!

The Stardew Valley preview is an opportunity for you to get involved, test it, and let us know what you think. It currently has all the features needed to help you easily mod Stardew Valley, such as mod updates and installing collections.

I need to remind myself to install this when I get the chance. Navigating the site for every mod, downloading them, extracting them, deleting old mods, and moving them over is very tedious to do on a steam deck without an external monitor/KB+M