is unsupported by Valve

You say that as if the versions packaged by your distro are supported.

As it stands, on Linux, Steam is only supported by Valve on SteamOS and LTS releases of Ubuntu.

If you’re talking about Fedora, no. One of the maintainers just proposed it and the media/commenters in the community went crazy without knowing the facts.

There’s more to cheating than moving quickly.

Good. Honestly it’s staggering they’ve supported it for this long. It’s hard to envisage such an old system browsing the web using Firefox, the modern web is so bloated that any 32-bit system will seriously struggle.

It’s much better to have that developer/testing effort spent elsewhere. Mozilla doesn’t exactly have the infinite resources that Google has.

Gnome is not the default. Windows is the default. People go out of their way to install Linux, they choose what they want to install. Nobody forces Gnome. People choose it.

The only distro that Valve seriously supports is SteamOS which… doesn’t use Gnome.

Besides, you thinking Gnome UX is bad is just an opinion. I think it’s far better than any of the clunky Win95-like UXes I see. But I don’t go around shitting on people for preferring a windows-like UX. It’s their machine and they should use whatever they like.

Or, alternatively, people can use whatever they like on their own machines?

I’ll never understand people who care this much about the DE someone else uses.

It’s funny how much people say Linux is about choice, but the second they see someone pick a different choice to them, they go crazy.

Unfortunately not. The vast majority of games are DX12. Even DX11 is likely still more popular than Vulkan.

They didn’t try to remove 32-bit support. One Fedora contributor floated it as an idea, and the press/comment sections went wild.

I had issues with his trying out Linux series, but that is not one of them, and I’m tired of seeing him be shat on because of it.

Firstly, he was trying to install Steam via instructions he found on PopOS’s website. Even if he did do something stupid (and I would argue he didn’t really), it is not the fault of the end user that doing that can completely fuck your install. It should not be possible to do that, yet it was due to a PopOS packaging error.

Yes, he did receive a generic warning about how by proceeding to attempt this installation, he could cause damage. Hidden in a wall of text of hundreds of package names.

But do you know what else has scary messages like that? Android. Windows. MacOS. A whole host of smart devices. Any new user could easily think that message was normal and would appear any time you try to install something via the terminal.

End users are used to seeing scary messages like that, and they’ve become numb to them. Deflecting criticism of that PopOS bug by saying “well there was a warning, so actually it’s the end users that are idiots and PopOS/Linux is actually perfect” doesn’t help anybody.

AMD has learned that laptop gamers don’t give a shit about anything that’s not Nvidia. Their dGPU laptop solutions were never desirable for the general market, so they’ve instead started focussing a lot more on stronger APUs.

If you want something stable but up-to-date, Fedora is a very good option. Plus it has a bunch of “Spins”. The two main ones are Gnome and KDE Plasma, but there is a bunch more, and they’re all officially supported.

Then there’s also Arch. Arch should not be considered stable, but anecdotally I’ve not heard many problems with it in the past few years, so you’d probably be fine. I’d go with EndeavourOS or CatchyOS if you want Arch without the tedious setup process.

A lot of the Linux community are the most obnoxious entitled scumbags I’ve ever met in my life.

The amount of people that get very demanding or hate developers (who are donating their time for free) when they don’t cater their project towards that user’s desires… it bothers me. It’s even present in this very thread. It’s an extremely popular viewpoint to have, and it seriously bugs me.

If you don’t like how a project is run, don’t use it. It’s their project.

The nexus mods app is native. You’re thinking of Vortex, their old one.

The data ☝️

I’m always surprised by how low the Flatpak share is.

They said they’d probably have to if Fedora removed support for 32-bit packages, which was a proposal to the Fedora Community (who rejected the proposal).

Long-term, I imagine Valve will have to bundle a 32-to-64-bit abstraction layer, like they already do with a win-to-linux abstraction layer (Proton), and are preparing to do with an x86-to-ARM abstraction layer.

Distros do not want to each duplicate the work of maintaining 32-bit support for all eternity.

Easy thing to say when you’re not the one donating your time for free.

I love what Valve is doing for Linux, but longer term, the onus is on them to solve the 32-bit compatibility layer issue (a-la Proton for win-to-linux, as well as their upcoming x86-to-ARM layer).

Expecting all distros (who again, are staffed mostly by volunteers) to do this work separately (i.e. duplicating all that work), for all time, is a big ask.

Having heard about some of the difficulty in budgeting for a charity my friend works at that is also reliant on donations, this isn’t surprising.

She said things would be managed more effectively if there were predictable payments coming in, even if they were taking in less money in total.

It appears Gnome, and probably others, are the same.

Trouble is, I too am a “I like donating to things in lump sums so my bank account is less cluttered” kinda guy.

Note that this is just a proposal that the Fedora community wants feedback on.

Even if it does go ahead, this is minimum 1 year away from happening.

Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if this was meant as a “hurry up and move away from Steam still being a 32-bit app, Valve!” bit of brinkmanship.

I’m somewhat surprised there isn’t a Fedora there, it’s a pretty great and up-to-date distro. And pretty popular.

I’m also surprised Flatpak isn’t higher!

Manjaro keeps popping up on devices, and I don’t understand how they keep getting these deals.

It’s seemingly the only thing they are competent at doing.