cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/45454904
Mounting economic hardship and growing public discontent could push Russia toward internal conflict, a senior Kremlin official has warned.
The stark message comes as inflation, war fatigue, and social divisions deepen across the country.
Alexander Kharichev, head of the Presidential Directorate for Monitoring and Analysing Social Processes, issued the warning in a state-run journal.
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Military over social spending
Rising prices have hit ordinary Russians hard, with food costs climbing well above the national inflation rate. Businesses are struggling to stay afloat, and layoffs and bankruptcies loom large.
Despite the pressure, the Kremlin continues to prioritize military spending over social welfare.
At the same time, Russia’s workforce has been decimated by more than a million war casualties, mostly men of working age, worsening the long-term demographic decline and ageing population.
[…]
Kharichev warned of “fragmentation of society” and the “loss of Russia’s ability to fight for its survival.”
His analysis cited the growing erosion of public trust in government and widening rifts within Russian society.
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I hate the idea, because short term everybody loses, lose loved ones, lose their own lives, but one does wonder if a civil war would finally be able to break Russia into smaller normal independent democratic states that can take care of themselves
Anyone hoping this means they stop funding scammers to trick Americans into voting against their best interests, too bad, that’s one of their best revenue streams.
Yeeaaaahhh, no, that won’t stop unless indeed a civil war breaks out in Russia.
It’s crazy how much it start to seem like Russia and the US are like 2 sides to the same coin. It’s almost like a small minority of persons with highly lethal weapons give them some sort of complex that leads them to believe they can make decision for everybody else at the cost of other people’s livelihood.
That would be pretty neat, which means it won’t happen.
Good. Die faster, Russia.
Why are you, Mr Kharichev, so interested in windows?
I think Mr. Kharichev is about to get window’d.
Every once in a while a story like this gets published and it occupies the news cycle for a little bit. They always end up being nothing.
A few years ago Putin was reportedly on his death bed. Prior to that he had aggressive Parkinson’s and would resign in 6 months.
I suspect this is just a smoke screen for something else.
Defenestrated
Onto a trampoline where he bounced back in, and was refenestrated.
And then they injected polonium in his veins, the end
Indeed. If this happened it seems unwise - even if it was part of an essay suggesting doubling down on Putinist “family values”. I don’t recognise the source, though, and not much else comes up that I trust more on a search.
Edit: I found this. Maybe it’s time to get my Russian practice in. The title does indeed read as described, at least.
Yes please. Something good for once. That country is the source of so much suffering in the world.
Finally some clever words about reality. But I doubt that he will listen anyway.
He’ll be seen in a gulag and then never seen again
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According to Vlad Vexler, in Russian political/bureaucratic culture this is not to be understood as real analysis and more to be understood as functionaries pitching themselves as useful to Putin: https://youtu.be/ZJryUKULZ_E
Love Vlad Vexler, he nailed almost everything since the war started. Russia is actually not that complex, it’s just a very big gang really.
FAFO
if russia is going to civil war, thier troll farms will be silent on social media for a while, thats a good thing.
Sometimes I reminisce how real the internet was before the propaganda machines took over :(
i remember reddit was pretty quiet and qaint like lemmy before 2016. then there was massive campaign underway to put propaganda on reddit, and then the first bans i recieved was during '18 in politics section, it just snowballed from there.
oh and you notice when reddit does thier usual annual purges the site becomes super quiet, or when PUTIN needed to turn his troll farms internally it had the same effect.
Yeah the pattern basically repeats on every information technology:
- It’s new and kinda buggy / empty.
- It’s peak now - full of organic content and culture.
- Commercial entities and astroturfers start to squeeze value.
- Government entities catch on and start propaganda campaigns and prosecution.
- Owners start to get overwhelmed and start to extract profit i.e. enshitification
Except these days it’s so accelerated that we barely get to enjoy step 2 :(
How the fuck a comment like this can have this many upvotes?
if russia is going to civil war,
thier troll farms will be silent on social media for a while, thats a good thing.possibly thousands of people would be killed, thousands more would have their lives upended, there would be even more thousands of refugees flooding in all of Russia’s neighbors.But you would maybe have your “peace” on social media. Yeah, good for you.
I don’t think the poster meant that a Russian civil war will be nice for his online experience.
There is substantial belief in the western world that Russia is using these “troll farms” to destabilize foreign governments. If true, that would be considered by many to be an act of aggression that he and many others would welcome the end of. The fact that a period of strife in Russia is what caused would be unfortunate, but the fact remains.
There is substantial belief in the western world that Russia is using these “troll farms” to destabilize foreign governments.
Yes, I’m aware. And that’s entirely on their government. Putin and others below him should be blamed, not he entirety of the people who lives in Russia.
The fact that a period of strife in Russia is what caused would be unfortunate
When talking about a possible civil war, “unfortunate” is such a weak euphemism. People would die, lots of them.
Ah for fuck sake can you not cpnsider the implications of what is being said rather than jumping right on to defending a dangerous, unpredictable nuclear power.
Frankly I hope they do fall to a civil war, even if loads die at least they will be fighting amongst themselves and not kidnapping Ukrainian kids to groom or send to the frontline.
Its either they are making the world worse or russia worse, I know which one I prefer.
Think of the children…
This is pure, undistilled xenophobia. By that logic anyone living under an undesirable government should just die. Well, guess what? A sizable part of the world is under bad government in one way or another. Should I be whishing the USA blows up too? Maybe we should all collectively just shoot ourselves in the head then?
Whatever man, I think the US economy collapsing is well deserved as it happens.
Drama queen
poligonal ursae in shambles
Putin and Trump, and their respective countries, have lots in common. It’s almost like they’re marching in lock-step.
Yes. But trump isn’t sending thousands of soldiers every week to die in the meat grinder… yet.
Just wait
He’s working hard on catching up, no worries.
And he doesn’t even have to invade. He will kill his own people using his minions.
So it’s a race, is it? USA! USA! USA!
Wouldn’t it be great if all the empires collapsed and everybody just like, learned their lesson?
literally everyone when an empire collapses:
omg what a happy world if both the US and Russia balkanized.
hahaha
I’m sorry, I think they have a lead. You (?) can come up from behind and get ahead afterwards, though, like in the space race!
I do enjoying coming from behind.
