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  • So are you an art fan who thinks 4’33" is a work of genius? Or one of the ones who thinks it’s garbage? I’m almost tempted to go for visual art where these controversies are more common; musicians are actually pretty chill about it most of the time. (And I’ll avoid the derogatory term if we’re discussing whether it’s good, as opposed to just if someone in particular is doing it)

    Scientists come to consensus, and update that consensus in sync as new discoveries are made. Art fans do not. There’s also anthropology showing the existence of non-Western systems of music completely different from and alien to our own, divergences between systems within Western music history, and a long history of new kinds of music associated with minorities being deemed “wrong”. Meanwhile, other people have known beauty is subjective continuously since Plato.

    All that adds up to gatekeeping art being done for essentially the same reasons people gatekeep anything.




  • IRL, that I’m left-wing and atheist, because it’s a loyally right-wing area, and because the latter thing pisses off an important minority. I also avoid anything that could be seen as “playing a card”, although in the right conditions I might bring whatever personal consideration up. The only way I’m admitting the first two is if either they did first, or I’m asked point blank.