Meanwhile, dozens were injured by Iranian strikes in Israel, as Tehran targeted a nuclear site.
Donald Trump threatened Iran in a Truth Social post Saturday evening, warning that the U.S. would target the nation’s power plants if the Strait of Hormuz remained closed.
“If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!” Trump wrote in the post.
Approximately 20% of the world’s oil passes through the the Strait of Hormuz, a critical trade route. Iranian attacks on ships in the area have seen the area essentially close to maritime traffic, while oil prices have soared globally.
very putin-like of him. impotent dictators outclassed by the problems they caused and pretending they have been fighting a war with one hand tied behind their back and unless they are able to give orders to their enemies they will unleash their true power is one of the most pathetic things.
You cant escalate if you are already at war and already committing war crimes.
“obliterate”, like how he “obliterated” the Iranian’s nuclear capabilities last June?
So I should expect they’ll be producing at full capacity again in 8 months then? Is that how this works?
This mother fucker is going to get us all killed.
What even was the official objective of this war in the first place
No joke but to bring about the biblical end times, Trump is just a useful idiot to the folks with money and bad intentions.
our war objective is to do whatever israel tells us to do.
Depends on the hour you asked that question, plus some alignments of planets and what crystals are doing, least from anything I can tell. Yet the US is letting him go ahead, huh. So whatever works for the US I guess.
To facilitate the Greater Israel Project
They have a concept of an objective
Armageddon.
Barring that, eternal warmongering for profit.War
Was Israel’s only objective, and therefore Trump cabinet/negotiators objectives. So far, war has just made Iranian people more enthusiastic about IRGC’s dominance in the conflict. Electricity failure in the mildest month of the year won’t change that, and there are rapid electricity restoration (solar) solutions.
GCC is faced with a survival threat for their demonic, either secret initial war support or the gaslighting of ever escalating escalation against Iran. Iran has offered peace with GCC even as they are backed into executing their total annihilation. There is an important global community private communications with US channel path, even as anti-Iran public comments continue, that can try to convince Trump of declaring victory while accepting real defeat, which lets world reopen Gulf without US interference.
Didn’t Iran say that it would cripple civilian infrastructure in the gulf like desal plants and fossil fuel infrastructure? Sounds like another game of chicken and we know TACO. So do the Iranians. If Iran clobbers the infrastructure in the gulf then open it by all means. Nothing to ship for years.
The bombings will continue until you like us more than your violent government…seems like a solid plan…
Bombing powerplants is an attack on civilians and therefore a war crime.
Who is going to stop this addle-pated pigman?
We’re at the point both sides could just be waiting for him to wipe Iran off the map before doing anything since can just make Trump the scapegoat and finally get their wished for attack on Iran
At this point, Trump could just nuke Iran and both sides will cope about it being “a necessary measure to save lives from a ground invasion”. The US has no inhibitions left anymore.
Dems will complain he didn’t let then vote on it while also saying he had no choice 😑😞🙃
Many people here will accuse the United States of using Israeli tactics and of trying to pull a Gaza on Iran. That’s not true.
This time, they’re taking a page from the Russian playbook by targeting civilian infrastructure in an attempt to do collective punishment. We can see how much success these tactics have had in the past, and somehow are to believe that it will be different this time.
Looks at history. Dresden firestorms. Nagasaki. Agent Orange. NATO vs Serbia. Current day Cuba.
Russian playbook? It just is THE playbook. Everybody does it and has done it since like forever.
Targeting civilian infrastructure is absolutely an Israeli tactic as well
Russia Russia Russia. JFC. The “Russian playbook” while the US had 500000 dead under its belt just in Iraq during the comic book episode of “WMD” and Albright saying it was worth it? On nighttime news? Not in private.
But Russia’s the problem. Doing nothing even close to what you claim. Meanwhile Israel just needs to say “tunnel” and oops everything’s a legit target, a target of weapons you supply.
Can I get a MRI of your brain? I’ve always wanted to see a single proton in a vacuum.
Often it is the case (and documented) that Hamas deliberately used hospitals and residential buildings to shoot from, or for other military purposes. In that case, by the laws of war, Israel is actually allowed to level those buildings - and Hamas are the ones who committed a war crime. A fact that often seems utterly lost in social media posts. Often in war, a party will retreat from or surrender a city, rather than shoot from the buildings, if the defending party is not a death cult.
Power plants can be military targets, and as such valid to bomb. But… Trump has pretty much stated here that he is bombing them as terror against civilians, which is a war crime. So Trump is arguably behaving worse than Israel.
zionist propoganda BS framing. War crimes supporters like yourself shouldnt be allowed to post on social media.
Hamas deliberately used hospitals and residential buildings to shoot from
How far is Tel Aviv from a Palestinian hospital?
How is that relevant?
Israelis that stay away from Palestinian hospital war fortresses of doom would be out of range.
Iran already replied to the threat saying they’d bomb the gulf’s desalinators…what now, you fucking idiot? He really has no notion of what he’s done and no ability to think beyond threats and escalation…
Nothing says diplomacy like a Twitter ultimatum with a countdown while simultaneously admitting that you are about to commit a war crime.
Yep.
Sad part is labelling things as ‘War crimes’ is meaningless. There’s no accountability in this World anymore.
It’s like “that’s a war crime!”
… “so anyways… what’s for dinner?”
Sad World our ancestors fought and died for all those years ago.
Well…
So like for probably me and you, it was our grand fathers and great grandfather’s that put forth the rules of war in WW1 and WW2.
For Trump it was his dad. He’s not even that removed, he was born 3 years before the Geneva convention was ratified. When “War Crimes” actually became a thing…
Purely speculation, but given the fact he has never had respect of law, I think him and his cabal would have been against the idea of creating war crimes in 1949… So for him its just a long line of ignoring inconvenient “woke” bullcrap.
Fascinating to watch the strategist in chief play three-dementia chess…
Ha ha, I hate this three dimensional chess talk, and I play chess, but that is a good one.
Give up your only leverage while we horsefuck you or else we will horse fuck you! Brilliant! /s
Thanks for ruining the world, Americans. Holding you all responsible for this.
oh, are you from someplace free of zionist influence? Wheres that?
edit: oh I see from your comment history that you’re from the UK. Your government is as big of a joke as the US is. Isnt your arcraft carrier over there doing Americas/Israels bidding right now? Glass houses, friend.
Lol oh boy you have a lot to learn about Israel. TL;DR Ghislane Maxwell is a god
As a Native American who doesn’t even have a voting member of congress please go fuck yourself. White people are doing this and white people didn’t come from America.
Wait, Indigenous people in the US cant vote for a senator?
Neither do Puerto Ricans, Guamanians, American Samoans, or Virgin Islanders. Congressional representation is a bad joke, and the house hasn’t expanded seats since 1910 which greatly privileges representation for smaller population states. Gerrymandering is just a splash in the pot compared to how rigged they have the legislature.
The Reapportionment Act of 1929 was a bullet to the head for representational democracy in the United States. It just took nearly a hundred years for us to realize how fatal the wound was.
We were promised our own representatives that we still don’t have. As you may be able to imagine, the white people who are elected state wide don’t always have the best interests of Native peoples in mind.
Yeah Im Canadian and Indigenous rights are not respected here either but fuck, at least they can vote.
Native Americans can vote in state and national elections and are supposed to be represented in Congress by the senators and representative of the state they live in, but they are not represented directly by a native with equal standing and their land and rights are usually not a priority for their legislators or states they live in.
Natives can vote in the US. The republicans have tried to make it harder because they vote against them.
Don’t forget that ICE is kidnapping and trying to deport Native Americans.
The mask is off, they aren’t pretending. We shouldn’t either. We need to respond.
The natives are especially valuable for environmental issues, as their treaties dicatate rights, and they are on the right side of all such issues. But the fed courts are going to hell so that is ending.
No shit, in case you haven’t noticed, the “white” people elected don’t have the best interests of white people in mind either. You are barking up the wrong tree, this is a class war, and we are losing.
Hard to win if you don’t do anything other than SLAMMING them.
Whatcha mean? This makes no sense to me. Or I suspect to anyone with sense unless I misunderstand your seeming point.
You do realize like half of white people are on your side?
My comment was directed specifically at the person I was responding to. Obviously being an ally is a choice not helped or hindered by one’s own ethnicity, creed, religion, sexuality, etc.
Tomorrow you wake up American. You are the same person, nobody asked your permission, you had no say in the matter, but you are within the borders of America, are a citizen, and have no other citizenship. In fact, because you are American, no country will take you, and even if they would, it would take years up emigrate.
What do you do?
More than Americans have, presumably. All this US apologia is fucking hilarious, you guys elected a pedophile. Fuck off with this “not all americans” bullshit. Do something about it, or youre a pedo protector, simple as. If you dont like the entire world hating you, dont commit evil shit as a country.
To be clear, i am American. We all deserve every bit of hate the world can muster.
And the Israelis too. Don’t be so harsh on yourself taking all the blame ;)
I feel like people should be able to muster up extra hate for each country that needs it. Hopefully your hatred for one doesnt reduce your hatred for the other.
Where are you from with your holier than thou talk?
They literally said they are American, so you can safely assume the USA.
I don’t believe him, as his opinion is shit.
You don’t think US Americans can have shit opinions? Let alone not be more likely to be shit? What world are you living in?
This is some .ml prick.
I couldnt respond earlier as my app wouldnt load the comment, i had assumed a mod delted my comment. But its here now!
Of course my opinion is shit, im American.
Me too! Way to Lean Into The Stereotype!
Somewhere with very low literacy evidently
The options are run or fight.
And your scenario seems to eliminate run as an available option.
The intro for The Sopranos plays…
Woke up this morning…
They give us entertainment and lifestyles that are planned, focus grouped, and created to psychologically make us disassociate from the reality of humanity.
It’s not even a conspiracy anymore. And when I say they I mean the corrupt class and the American dreamers that think because they are attaining success from a taught career that makes them somehow believe they are on the right side of history.
I swear to god Americans aren’t even human anymore. They are cattle, products and consumers. They are the equivalent of the people fent bending on the sidewalk except they are culturally accepted. It doesn’t matter if you have success here… You could be a celebrity, chief of police, a family dad, a politician… It doesn’t equal being someone worth respecting or that they are a good person. I can’t stop seeing American success as an illusion to keep people as cattle or working cattle… The real wealthy get to use them all because it’s like the nation is just a service. We get sold to the highest bidder. America is a service. This isn’t freedom or democracy. Our freedom is a like a fake free-range farm system. And it’s getting even more evil as they start implementing Ai…
We are getting kettled. On a national scale.
And all the Russians are responsible for Putin and his war crimes.
But Democrats equally bad or something.
Maybe not equally but they will need to take a good chunk of responsibility for this.
Americans saw his first term, his attempts to bomb Iran were thwarted back then.
Americans watched as he tried to steal the 2020 election.
Americans and democrats had 4 years to punish him for this.
What did Americans do? They gave him an even bigger mandate in 2024.
Assuming the 2024 election was valid, this is an American-wide problem. You’ve all got to own this and you’ve all got to be the ones to do something about it.
With all of the Russia mentions in this thread, sometimes falling out of a window is pro democracy.
Unfortunately it is now a world-wide problem. What are you going to do about it?
Protect myself as best I can financially from the coming recession. Little else I can do. Thankfully I live in a country with decent worker rights and benefits systems so even if I lose my job I should be able to bounce back. Not like capitalist dystopian USA.
I’m American, so I’m going to stream the latest hot marvel movies and pay taxes to kill people so I can continue to be a worthless thoughtless human being.
I resist.
It’s pointless as enough people are encouraged by influence ops to support the dems to run opposition. And their leadership is doomed to fail. Fuck this country, straight to hell, waiting for the phoenix.
Phoenixes rise from something burned to ashes. Not from something turned to shit. Sorry.
Shit does burn after it dries. Or after held in anaerobic conditions it produces methane. So the analogy still kind of works.
That said, plato catalogued greek republics and noticed a pattern they all followed, and all have since, it’s just a matter of time. A monarch is overthrown and a republic instituted. That republic in time decays through stages of oligarcic repression, although he breaks it down into specific stages, and in time, a true leader emerges, and rallies the people, and lays waste to the oligarchy, and becomes a sort of king again, which in time decays and a republic overthrows them and starts the cycle anew.
At a point, destroying the oligarchy is worth any cost. We are at that point. The current president is not caesar, but sulla, another stage of oligarchic repression, until a real leader emerges to lay waste to the oligarchy. The time is nigh, and epstein is the key.
That’s a lot of words and thout put into what is ultimately just hopeful coping.
You are an anti intellectual.
Yeah they did so much to stop this in the last 50 years right right?
…they all get played out by wealthy corrupted people. It’s the entire culture that’s fucked up.
Oh come on.
This is his second term. I’m not going to give free pass to trump voters, third party voters, and non-voters.
westerners*
europe is complicit, and ever perpetrates some of their evil.
I help fund it! I killed a bunch of people with my tax money, and I go about my day with extreme privilege, arrogance, naivety, and ignorance of the honest reality of what it means to be a human being.
🇺🇸🦅
How are people not realizing there’s a narrative, a class of corrupted people, and psychological manipulation to keep us submissive? And it very well could have been an ideology preexisting America’s founding.
This culture is a lie.
Where are you from buddy? I bet your leaders have done some bullshit. People aren’t responsible for their government necessarily.
us crimes against humanity go far deeper any other country in history.
don’t excuse yourself off from this, this shit is your fault.
Ha, spoken like someone with no historical knowledge. The conservative romans were fucking pricks like the republicans dyed in wool for instance. Tamerlane? Shiiiiiit.
take responsability you prick.
did the romans enslave the entire global south?
are they threatening global nuclear winter and food shortages?
fucking no. you sort of people is the reason we all hate usians. stop making excuses.
Sorry I didn’t overthrow the most powerful empire on earth, just lazy I guess! Eat a dick.
you and your wretched culture literally elected a fascist to power.
Unlike the workers paradises of Russian and China? Ha ha, eat a dick.
Go for it.
Your ignorance of American culture doesn’t offend me.
We did this.
Trump is the inevitable result of liberals spending all their energy opposing progressives and cooperating with fascists.
The portion of the adult American population that remains blameless is vanishingly small.
We decided at some point to stop enforcing laws on rich people and the whole world is paying the consequence for that. We are mostly the source of most of the aggression on most of the planet, I don’t know about you but I’m old enough to say it’s been 40 years of this shit to my recollection.
We did this.
Speak for yourself. I voted Green.
Trump is the inevitable result of liberals spending all their energy opposing progressives and cooperating with fascists.
That’s a salient point, but the ‘we’ you’re pointing to isn’t a part of this. Billionaires and the Epstein Class are who the finger should be pointing at. Voters only have any real power at the local level, unless you’re planning to follow in the footsteps of Player 2.
We decided at some point to stop enforcing laws on rich people
Again, I’d argue there’s no we here. The only power you or I have is in our local neighborhood, and in mine, we’re doing good things. Hell, my city was one of the few to put a killer cop behind bars. (And in the US, you can count on your fingers the number of killer cops who’ve spent any time in prison.)
I voted green
Then you did do this lmao
Depends where he lives. I always vote third party, but every district I am in is gerrymandered, and my state is not within 10 points of competitive for president, so my votes do not matter other than getting third parties on the ballot.
That seems like something you guys should have been more proactive about.
Jill Stein is a Russian asset and anyone who supported the green party in 2024 is a cuck who got trump elected. Even if your vote didn’t matter, you contributed to the dialogue and publicity they got for their blatant effort to split the vote. We shouldn’t have only 2 parties, but in the current system voting 3rd party is performative at best and genuinely dangerous at worst.
There are other 3rd parties.
A very useful comment. Thank you, and have a lovely Sunday.
Also, and this is really fun, I literally predicted this in September 2024.
Also, this is funny. I predicted the race and your behavior in September 2024.
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About as useful as your vote?
American culture? What’s that then?
Simple.
The billionaires decide.
You can blame the whole of the US population if you like, but voters here only have any power on the local level. National elections are wholly driven and decided by the billionaire class (which is why you saw both Democrats and Republicans fight so hard against Mamdani), so to me, it’s a tad absurd to pretend that the people as a whole support this. That’s even more true when you look at the 2025 and 2026 elections (so far), where nearly all of the candidates backed by Donald have lost, regardless of the state, and most in districts Donald won by double digits in 2024. (Demonstrating that people do not support the war in Iran or the pedophile coverup.)
Hell, Donald can’t even gerrymander anymore, because the Republican Party can’t accurately project where they have voter strength. That is the incredible extent to which people are opposed to this.
And you make yourself sound ignorant by pretending otherwise in the face of all of these facts.
The downside is that, since the Epstein Class controls politics at the national level, the opposition party doesn’t really oppose anything, but there are a few candidates with some strength that could do some limited good, like Graham Platner.
“Stop making a oil crisis or we’ll make it even worse!”
Stop making an oil crisis (that we started) or we will continue to make it even worse
Civil Energy infrastructure.
War crimes are cool and easy to do
