If the penalty is so steep for minor offenses, they will encourage real terror. Why wouldn’t the next ones just blow up the bank if they’re going be charged as terrorists regardless? It’s not a charge you ever recover from.
Anyone who finds spray paint on a bank more terrifying than the Arms Manufacturing Industry is a fucking psychopath.
They should have to prove terror has been caused to a considerable part of the population.
terrorism is such a low bar nowdays, I miss when they had to work for it
In the UK the state can deprive a person of their UK citizenship when they are labeled a terrorist by the state. Guess what will happen next to these people.
violence is the anwser, not spray paint, you’ll be designated as a terrorist either way so you have nothing to lose.
You start
don’t need to, my democracy (Canada) threw out your puppet Pierre Poilievre and the sedition plot for Alberta is failing, now the conservatives are becoming more irrelevant by the day as the old folks die off, why should i die for your country when that’s your responsibility. but rest assured, if any of your lead brain dumbfuck soldiers come to my country under donalds order, i will happily find ways of getting rid of them like other wars they’ve failed to win.
if this is your response then you deserve to be a debt slave you coward.
Canada is absolutely not safe from PP and our closest to actual left party was effectively destroyed through this, and now the liberals are shifting further and further right
lol nah, the cons are diving deeper in the poles and the ndp is rising, theyre dieing as moderate cons flock to either ndp for workers rights or carney for civil order. only the maple magas and con tribalist that cant change are still red.
lol what country do you think I’m from?
American, considering your first response and you pointing a finger at me tells me you didnt care to check where im from hypocrite, if your going to be useless, just keep your mouth shut.
lol I’m not American. Why do you assume that under a post about the UK? Dumb ass Hoser.
same shit diff country brits are doing the same thing as america now, but you are right in that i didn’t check cuz this sound exactly like what donald is doing. nothing about my original point has changed.
I’m not British 🤮 either
Craven, servile authorities with no morals or balls might be able to stop people finding ways to voice their horror at the fact gutless IDF fuckholes mass murder Palestinian babies and children, but they’ll never stop people knowing Netanyahu’s an inhuman cunt, who deserves to be thrown into a deep, deep pit for the rest of his life, for ordering it.
This term is used to discredit certain people…
Where is the terror exactly? That’s prevarication. Anyone judging paintings as terrorism should be put to jail.
If something that should at worst be called vandalism is considered terrorism what’s preventing activists from just doing actual terrorism?
Ethics, probably
The terror is Barclays trying to profit off the climate catastrophe
The UK has successfully watered down terrorism to mean “petty crime”
It was watered down 25 years ago to include property damage but has never been used until, surprise surprise, Zionist genocide is being inconvenienced.
Kill thousands of Palestinian children, including by picking infants up by the ankle and swinging them hard as you can into brick walls, and impaling pregnant women through the stomach and leaving them to die in the dirt?
You’re a “settler.”
Throw paint at something to protest that?
You’re a “terrorist.”
Can you please provide a source for these claims.
Just to be clear, I wholeheartedly believe they are capable of this. I’d just love to have a source to cite in future
I wasn’t making factual claims of any certain incidents. I was using (sadly very light)hyperbole to make a point. There are databases of atrocities against Palestinians you can look into online. I stopped having the stomach for it a while ago. The things mentioned in my comment aren’t specific incidents, but they are the level of evil that has been documented many times over.
The British government paved the way for those settlers, don’t forget. They assumed control of the land, kicked out the natives and beckoned for all the Israelites to enter, who, obviously, started murdering anyone still in Palestine. This chapter of their cruelty started in 1948 and Britain’s government, who has always been a piece of shit, made it so.
That’s crazy. Fortunately the world is full of countries like China, the US, Germany, Russia… you know, big places where everything has run on compassion for others and doing the right thing for the last hundred plus years.
I get it, if you mean I’m being unnecessarily narrow-minded: there’s no need to single out one or two cruel empires when there are many… All of the most globally influential countries and many smaller ones are ethically awful and cause suffering, that it may be easier to count the ones that are wholly kind and benevolently ruled.
If you are subtly referencing the destruction of native civilisations for the unification of the newcomers: Many countries like Australia, Russia and Greenland (to name a few, perhaps less known ones) have natives a.k.a. people who lived there first that are horribly oppressed and shunned, but let’s not try to erase the most significant acts of evil in modern history, condoned by a massive portion of the local population. One wrongful act does not excuse or justify another.
If you’re referring to the systemic hate of Jews in those countries and most of Europe: please remember that the ethnoreligion of Judaism, the cult of Zion and the nationality of Israel are not the same.
*Edited out wildly inaccurate claim
What I said to the other guy down below: The entire point was “Yeah, seems like the bulk of the world is run by awful cunts. Let’s have a pint.”
What’s your point with this whataboutery ?
It’s just some strange tribalism I think. I think in their mind you have to be supporting another empire instead, it seems some are unable to understand that you support none of them.
I find it more than a bit ironic that after I list many other countries who have done and/or are doing tons of awful things you say that.
What strange tribalism? What tribe? Why do you think I’m imagining anyone is supporting any empire? I said nothing positive about anyone. The entire point was “Yeah, seems like the bulk of the world is run by awful cunts. Let’s have a pint.”
… and that means I’m in some sort of tribe? Do we at least get fancy hats?
That’s an interesting theory… I have none myself, except maybe they were being terribly sarcastic?
That is also a possibility. I just run into way too many that seem to assume that to automatically default to reading it as sarcasm.
Ding ding ding.
I’m lost on how so many people seemed to take me listing the countries I did followed by the description of them as having “run on compassion for others and doing the right thing for the last hundred plus years” and seen anything other than sarcasm.
All of the listed countries have been responsible for the deaths of mass numbers of innocent civilians, and kids, and nuns, and nuns carrying infants who were carrying baby kittens over the last 100 or so years. Fuck, more than one of them has been responsible for that in the last few months.
In my case it was a combination of it being hard to read sarcasm online in many cases, especially if you are not already familiar with the author, along with the number of times I run into “You don’t support A? That means you support B!” in political discussions.
If throwing a can of paint is the same as throwing a bomb then why not throw bombs? Seems like a dumb thing for a government to promote…
Thats actually what they want. They are engineering a reason.
again it seems like they got their terrorism charge, so it didn’t matter what the person did. i find the argument that we should never do anything they could use to justify their fascism ridiculous, when we are talking about a live demonstration of said fascism being justified with non violent resistance.
Don’t put words in my mouth.
then if you agree, i am sorry for assuming the worst
We’d better not give them a reason, or they might start doing fascist things.
Both outcomes benefit them. Either it scares and subdues everyone or does the exact opposite which gives them even more ‘justification’ for crackdowns.
This is their way of subduing the populace even more. If politicians and corporations were actually scared to fuck people over, we’d live in a much better world.
literal whole buildings for entire blocks have graffiti and random crap in places all around the world. Spray paint clearly isn’t good enough.
They also called paint £200k in damage. And broken windows £500k. Just utterly insane figures to inflate the seriousness of what’s just basic vandalism of a building.
In Italy, when we occupied the high school against the Berlusconi government, we were asked for one € each for one pane of glass broken.
That made for an extremely expensive glass since we were around 1000 in the institute and it was 2002.
Of course, the Dean pocketed more vaffanculos than coins.
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Of course it’s a terrorist, it’s literally creating hundreds of explosions per second!
Ah yes, nothing screams terrorism like… paint.
It’s vandalism. It’s property damage. It’s rude as fuck. But it’s not terrorism. Trying Americans for protests calling it terrorism is a form of terrorism.
Trying Americans for protests calling it terrorism is a form of terrorism.
There are no Americans involved in this story…
Wow, Lemmywinks. What crawled up your ass?
I don’t really think you’re over reacting to anything, just rare to get a chance to say that.
I appreciate the joke 😂 (though I’m not too surprised many others didn’t get it, relying as it does on a ~25 year old South Park reference)
I’m imagining they’re all just down voting because they’re sad I beat them to it.
It is. I’d consider it a form of stochastic terrorism. Stochastic terrorism is the public demonization of a person or group through mass media that incites a violent act which is statistically predictable but whose specific perpetrator and timing cannot be predicted.
So the government labeling anti-fascists as terrorists, or people that support an end to the Palestinian genocide as terrorists could fall under the definition of stochastic terrorism. We have the public demonization of anti-facists via policy and yellow journalism, which leads to those people speaking out against fascism to be targeted by the police/government for exercising their right to free speech and assembly. The anti genocide protesters spreading red paint and breaking windows are vandals for sure, but I wouldn’t go so far as to label them as terrorists. Labeling them as terrorists creates an opening for the government to deny them freedom via criminal charges worse than any crime they are actually guilty of.
