• lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
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    The British government paved the way for those settlers, don’t forget. They assumed control of the land, kicked out the natives and beckoned for all the Israelites to enter, who, obviously, started murdering anyone still in Palestine. This chapter of their cruelty started in 1948 and Britain’s government, who has always been a piece of shit, made it so.

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      That’s crazy. Fortunately the world is full of countries like China, the US, Germany, Russia… you know, big places where everything has run on compassion for others and doing the right thing for the last hundred plus years.

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        I get it, if you mean I’m being unnecessarily narrow-minded: there’s no need to single out one or two cruel empires when there are many… All of the most globally influential countries and many smaller ones are ethically awful and cause suffering, that it may be easier to count the ones that are wholly kind and benevolently ruled.

        If you are subtly referencing the destruction of native civilisations for the unification of the newcomers: Many countries like Australia, Russia and Greenland (to name a few, perhaps less known ones) have natives a.k.a. people who lived there first that are horribly oppressed and shunned, but let’s not try to erase the most significant acts of evil in modern history, condoned by a massive portion of the local population. One wrongful act does not excuse or justify another.

        If you’re referring to the systemic hate of Jews in those countries and most of Europe: please remember that the ethnoreligion of Judaism, the cult of Zion and the nationality of Israel are not the same.

        *Edited out wildly inaccurate claim

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          What I said to the other guy down below: The entire point was “Yeah, seems like the bulk of the world is run by awful cunts. Let’s have a pint.”

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          It’s just some strange tribalism I think. I think in their mind you have to be supporting another empire instead, it seems some are unable to understand that you support none of them.

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            I find it more than a bit ironic that after I list many other countries who have done and/or are doing tons of awful things you say that.

            What strange tribalism? What tribe? Why do you think I’m imagining anyone is supporting any empire? I said nothing positive about anyone. The entire point was “Yeah, seems like the bulk of the world is run by awful cunts. Let’s have a pint.”

            … and that means I’m in some sort of tribe? Do we at least get fancy hats?

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            10 hours ago

            That’s an interesting theory… I have none myself, except maybe they were being terribly sarcastic?

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              7 hours ago

              That is also a possibility. I just run into way too many that seem to assume that to automatically default to reading it as sarcasm.

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              Ding ding ding.

              I’m lost on how so many people seemed to take me listing the countries I did followed by the description of them as having “run on compassion for others and doing the right thing for the last hundred plus years” and seen anything other than sarcasm.

              All of the listed countries have been responsible for the deaths of mass numbers of innocent civilians, and kids, and nuns, and nuns carrying infants who were carrying baby kittens over the last 100 or so years. Fuck, more than one of them has been responsible for that in the last few months.

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                In my case it was a combination of it being hard to read sarcasm online in many cases, especially if you are not already familiar with the author, along with the number of times I run into “You don’t support A? That means you support B!” in political discussions.