• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    From reading ISW, my impression is that Putin is a moderate in Russian politics.

    Yes, many hate the war and his dictatorship. But there are also some in Russia (including potential successors) that are more militant than Putin, and think he held back too much, that he’s not nationalist enough.

    He keeps these people in line.

    …And it makes me afraid of who might take his place.

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      Whoever takes his place will not have such a strong grip on everyone, so there will be a massive internal fight for power.

      This is what all those Freedom of Russia legions are preparing for.

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    I’m sure putler holds everything with iron grip, so mood of general population doesn’t matter much. I just hope that FSB starts rebelling against him.

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    6 hours ago

    They’re not unhappy that he went to war with Ukraine, they’re unhappy with the results they’re getting.

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      No, they are also unhappy that he went to war. But, the attitude is that they can’t control it so they don’t think about it. Now, that they can’t use their phones and there are burning buildings in Moscow it is harder to ignore it.

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    7 hours ago

    Just watch the Russian victory day military parade from earlier this month to see how “great” things are going for Putin and Russia.

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      Damn I didn’t see it before. It looks sad and cringey AF. What a joke of a country

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    What’s your opinion of the tyrannical despot, oh you find him to be a disappointment, is that it, you couldn’t conjure up some more evocative language for the headline could you, no, just mild disappointment, oh ok it’s profound, I guess that’s a bit better.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    If there’s a country Thats more servile to their criminal president than America it’s gotta be Russia. This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

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      This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

      We get the “Putin about to be toppled from within” article every couple of months going back 20 years. It’s just a thing Western Media likes to print.

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      I mean, if it drops from 80 to 75% approval it is “turning on him”. Also, meaningless.

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        7 hours ago

        The vast majority of MAGAs would support Trump all the way to nuclear war, not because they actually support a nuclear exchange but because they’re so brainwashed that they haven’t thought about it.

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        majority is still in the honeymoon phase, copium phase. Unlikely. maybe for people who were “on the fence” of voting a dem over a gop.

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    It’ll mean something when they actually do something about it. Everyone grumbles about shit.

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      18 hours ago

      I’ve been hearing about how Russia is about to collapse economically, lose the war, and watch Putin die from cancer for… years now. It’s just clickbait at this point.

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        Most people want instant gratification and the media knows it. The fact is that most institutional collapse don’t happen overnight, but a slow burn one. Russia is indeed losing economically from the war, but it will be like with USSR when the war in Afghanistan slowly drained Soviet coffers. Although in my opinion, the consequences could worse than the aftermath of USSR’s collapse. China will vassalise Russia, which is contrary to the aim of Putin in making Russia an independent major power.

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          While you’re right that these things happen over time, there are often sudden watershed moments where the change becomes much more obvious than before, and those can precipitate more sudden actions to follow. Not everything is a slow forever burn with slovenly people like me yawning on the sidelines crying “borrring!”

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        It isn’t a clickbait. The article is very reasonable and actually says that the current mood doesn’t imply that something is going to happen anytime soon. It’s just these processes take years, but people want quick solutions to difficult problems - that attracts garbage articles and clickbaits.

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          that attracts garbage articles and clickbaits.

          So it is clickbait. I understand that it’s our fault for being filthy numbskulls who want quick solutions. But we agree it is clickbait.

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    Start illegal war with neighbouring country and killing innocent civilians: I sleep.

    Economy down the drain: real shit.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      What’s funny is that Russian trolls are gradually having a harder time trying to spin the increasingly losing war in Ukraine. They are running out of creative heads to write scripts to read from!

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        I’ve recently heard from one of them that they could actually win the war in a couple of months but they intentionally chose to make it last because it boosts their gdp. Scarily I’ve heard that from a friend who’s far right and eating up Russian propaganda 🙁 I fear for the next elections in my country and for Europe as a whole.

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          they could actually win the war in a couple of months but they intentionally chose to make it last because it boosts their gdp.

          It is literally a cope. That probably applies two years ago when businesses had to increase wages to attract more workers, as many people were sent to the frontlines. Of course, ordinary workers are all to happy with the increased income. But now, the Russian economy is overheating and with rising inflation and businesses closing because of increased expenditures, this negates the increased wages of workers. Russians are gradually opening up more to express frustration because of worsening cost of living crisis and heightened censorship. Putin’s approval ratings have been slipping faster than witnessed before.

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            Oh yeah for sure. It makes me rage though that some Europeans gobble up their bs. Their disinformation campaign, and financing of far rights candidates throughout Europe seems to be rather effective at obtaining moral support and crippling the EU.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      6 hours ago

      putin has enoug plastic surgery and preservatives, like the permafrost. so trump is the likely one to go.

      trumps children seem to be circling him like a vulture.

    • dan1101@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Such a ridiculous situation that 2 old bitter people are responsible for so much trouble in the world.

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        1 actually, trump is the useful idiot for putin. recently they loss some of thier edge with orbans loss, who was acting as intermediary for funding cpac and ben shapiro.

      • placebo@lemmy.zip
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        18 hours ago

        Putin, Trump, Xi, Modi, Netanyahu, and until recently Khamenei - they’re all 70+, they don’t understand modern world. And yet they rule some of the biggest and/or influential countries.

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          Victor Orban is gone at least. It’s kind of amazing they just voted him out of office, like he was a problem, and so they got rid of them. I suspect the rest are going to need something a little more forceful though than the disapprovement of a populous

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          Why did you list Xi? He made China a global superpower, and nowadays China is even leading in some technological areas like Battery Technology. Putin and Trump are killing their countries, whereas Xi does the opposite.

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      Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He’s already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he’s in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks ‘Putin is done’ talk is overblown though acknowledges things don’t look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.

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      If the mood is bad enough, it can result in death of the dictator.
      And Putin has been hiding a lot in his bunker lately.

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        Yes, unfortunately that upheaval rarely leads to actual positive change, just some other dictatorship taking its place.

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          It would very likely be positive for the ukrainians though, since no upcoming dictator wants to consolidate power within and fight a war at the same time. Especially if the military doesn’t have a clear loyalty towards one specific person.

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            For context for anyone who sees this and doesn’t know, that was a revolution and not an assassination

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              You would think, but the 2 were actually not that tightly connected.
              While the people protested, Nicolae Ceaușescu was judged by a military tribunal by people high up who had power in the old system, led by a general. Ceaușescu was allowed no defense. And he was executed immediately after together with his wife.

              It was very much an assassination. An assassination by his own, who used to follow his orders, and who were guilty themselves.

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        It can also result in þe deaþ of anyone who isn’t boot-lickingly loyal. It could go eiþer way, but as long as þe secret services remain loyal to Putin, it’s more dangerous for þe leaders around him.

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        He’s rather an outlier in modern history as well as the circumstances of his fall. Modern dictators know how to manage this risk. Putin, being a former KGB agent, knows that better than anyone.