Minutes after that exchange, the libertarian pundit took to X/Twitter and ripped Trump supporters who were attacking her over a long-held position
Yeah, I suspect that Trump’s going to make a bunch of right-libertarians pretty unhappy, many of whom want less US foreign involvement. He basically spent a long time appealing to people who wanted less US foreign involvement (e.g. with Ukraine) and then turned around and jumped right into foreign involvement in South America, which probably isn’t going to sell well with them.
I saw several articles over the past couple days where Rand Paul and Thomas Massie, who are pretty visible Congressional voices along right-libertarian lines, were complaining about Trump intervening in Venezuela.
Probably fewer of those than there are, say, social conservatives, but I expect that for a lot of them, Venezuela is gonna be a sticking point.
It’s almost as if Trumps entire life has been about lying to get what he wants…
Seriously. Why would anybody believe a guy who made his career on getting away with lying?
Ask the almost 80 million people who voted him into a second term.
They dumb.
Shit. I’m dumb, and I could see past his lies. Nah, they on another lower level, a stupidity that we don’t got a word for as humans.
It’s not “dumb” - some of those voters have advanced degrees like a PhD or MD - so much as it is an emotional preference for authority. I likewise take a lot on faith daily - like I am not personally an expert in nuclear physics, or economics, etc. - and in the same manner such voters have been shown to rely more upon what they are told by experts, like news media, than what they see with their own eyes.
Which in itself is not “wrong”, so much as it has been twisted (by corruption of the media).
Also, go back and watch that historic debate between Biden and Trump. Both are geriatric, but one could at the time at least form a coherent sentence. So based solely on that debate, how would you vote? Or should making oneself knowledge about matters have been made a prerequisite to vote?
It was democracy itself that led us to this point. It’s tough to implement properly.
Whereas on Lemmy the attitude that I see most prevalent is “they dumb”, ignoring the complexity of the various processes and making people feel superior (tribal), as if the same identical trends were not also happening in virtually every democracy world-wide. Failure to properly diagnose the true underlying causes is simply going to lead to the identical outcome everywhere else as well… Like in a few years Canada may not so much be conquered so much as literally ask for the USA to allow it to join?
So I would advise not to be so quick to turn to an answer that provides emotional satisfaction without the benefit of it (entirely on its own) being fully, genuinely the absolute underlying cause.
As if you can’t have advanced degrees and be stupid in other areas at the same time, ignorant and stupid and emotionally volatile and immature people are the ones that voted for that turd
That’s alot to read and I’ll read it later. But that first part.
No yea I agree. There are a lot of folks on that side who are smart as all fuck. I think when I say dumb I’m more tongue in cheek(?) Type of insult. They’re dumb for their beliefs and dumb for how they act. I definitely have met some who are out right geniuses in what they do, but they just have dumbass views.
I’ll read the rest of your post later, as it was interesting, but the duty of being a Father calls.
Upvoting. If only it were that simple, yeah!
those have to be purchased degrees or ones earned via paying someone else to do the work. IIRC when that actress or something got caught paying someone to do her kids’ work a bunch of those workers admitted to existing and having done it for a lot of wealthy people
I mean… sure, some of them, but definitely not all? After all, conservatives make up more than a third of the entire country? I think there’s room for nuances, particularly when the Democrats are roughly equally corrupt (defined as receiving money from special interest groups), and even more inept at politics (I’m not talking Bernie Sanders, I’m talking the rest of the party that threw him away).
It’s like the Linux vs. Windows debate - moral purity sounds high and mighty and all, but what about those of us forced to live in the real world who have to use Windows (even if rarely) for our jobs?
Particularly people outside of the USA like to look down and judge… as if nearly identical disinformation warfare campaigns are not hard at work there too. We in the USA knows what that feels like - “haha, but surely that will never happen HERE” (meanwhile, it was happening here for decades, under our very own noses, but like the analogy of a frog in a cooking pot, we did not jump out so long as it proceeded forward slowly). It CAN and it IS happening elsewhere - pretty much everywhere, just at a less advanced stage.
But maybe other nations political systems are more robust and can handle the onslaught better than we could?
I’m curious as to what circumstances could unfold in which Canada would be asking to join the USA in the next 100 years, let alone in “a few” years.
Voting, the same as happened in the USA, where I would have said identically about it as well, 10 years ago.
There seem to be a lot of Trump supporters north of the USA border.
Youre absolutely right. Well put.
Rips? Like in half?
We can only hope… Needs to be mixed with SLAMS though.
At least this time they didn’t use “slams”
Sorry. I took all the slam and did it to your mom last weekend
To shreds you say?
To pieces you say? Happy cake day too!
Why? The hypocrisy is the point.
