• Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    That’s alot to read and I’ll read it later. But that first part.

    No yea I agree. There are a lot of folks on that side who are smart as all fuck. I think when I say dumb I’m more tongue in cheek(?) Type of insult. They’re dumb for their beliefs and dumb for how they act. I definitely have met some who are out right geniuses in what they do, but they just have dumbass views.

    I’ll read the rest of your post later, as it was interesting, but the duty of being a Father calls.

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        2 days ago

        It’d be a lot easier if they were just dumb. The sad part is they aren’t. Some of em are morons, but you know that when you see em…it sucks folks who can be so smart can be so greedy and hateful. I don’t understand, folks. I just try to live and let live. But it seems to be getting harder and harder to even live that way anymore.

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          Some are - as too are some on the other side as well (though not in equal proportions) - while some are strategic, looking to use him to accomplish their ends, and so on.

          People always keep forgetting: more people voted against Hillary Clinton than for Trump, and then the same with Joe Biden, who only at the last moment swapped out with Kamala Harris, someone who was relatively unknown, and also widely unpopular (across both sides of the aisle).

          Nobody has ever been able to tell me an example of a democracy that after devolving into a 2-party system, managed to survive. It seems a fatal wound for any democracy, when people are forced into voting against the other side, rather than for someone in particular? There is then no longer an incentive to “do better”, only to ever blame the other side for everything.

          Sorry, I wish I knew of solutions, but instead I only see as far as problems. That said, educating people may still be the solution to move forward? Or at least that much seems true in the fight against misinformation. It’s sorta like doctors learning that they needed to wash their hands when moving between one patient and another, to avoid spreading contamination.

          Now disinformation on the other hand… unfortunately that’s a whole other story, and affects all nations world-wide (to varying degrees). Continuing the medical analogy, that’s more akin to an infection, and to solve it we both need to fight against it, plus also then return to the misinformation aspect to avoid spreading unintentional falsehoods - either one alone is insufficient, though necessary.

          In short, those who still have a democracy, maybe try to do whatever is needed to keep it?