• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    I have a stupid question: how did El Salvador even agree to this? Like what mechanism allowed Republicans to send people there to begin with?

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      El Salvador’s regime has already sent 80k people to gulags since 2022, and capitalism found it cheaper to outsource US gulags to poor countries, the same way it did for manufacturing. Rather ironic, really.

      Also, Trump’s definitely making money off the deal somehow. It isn’t realistic to airlift tens of thousands of Americans there though. This is just the start. They’ll probably start building domestic death camps soon; to disappear the bulk of the undesirables.

      • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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        capitalism found it cheaper to outsource US gulags to poor countries

        It is more of a way to sidestep the judicial process. The executive branch can act faster than the judicial branch in removing someone from the country before appeals. Once the person is in a foreign country, they are no longer in custody of someone under the control of American judges.

        It isn’t a cost saving measure, it is a legal loophole.

          • Venat0r@lemmy.world
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            Facists don’t really care. V2 rockets were more expensive and less effective tactically than panzer tanks, but the Naxis built the rockets…

            • Madison420@lemmy.world
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              No that was one of the few successes, v2 were ineffective weapons they were however incredibly effective acts of terror.

              • Venator@lemmy.nz
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                Terror is not an effective tactic to end a war. It only motivates the enemy more.

                • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                  No one said it was to win the war itself it was too demoralize England and it worked in large part until Germany started getting carpet bombed and the dichotomy exampled the British isles relative safety.

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                    As someone that is British I take exception to the idea the V2 rocket somehow demoralised us, even temporarily. It takes a lot more than that to break us. It was a scary weapon, sure. But it didn’t reality make the reality of the war that much worse than it already was.

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            This is more of a case where capitalism decays into fascism.

            Capitalism relies on a decent legal framework to function. It doesn’t have to be equal, but it has to be consistent. It is usually why a lot of nations defined by capitalism are generally not dictatorships; monied interests are given ways to influence policy.

            Fascism concentrates power and frees that power from restraint in order to benefit a part of society. The ability for a person to imprison anyone without legal checks is an extraordinary power.

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        People act like this is the way to deal with crime since crime did drop. Only problem is that the gang violence in El Salvador was highly disorganized. They did try to do shit like this in Mexico but it failed. So it isn’t a ‘solution’ that can be exported.

    • justsomeguy@lemmy.world
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      From my understanding it’s a very poor nation with a deeply corrupt leadership. Said leaders are taking the opportunity to make money from industrialized incarceration without any oversight. The US president is openly breaking the law by deporting people there but has nothing to worry about anyway because the harshest form of protest the american people can think of is a passive aggressive tweet (that will generate ad revenue for the biggest monetary Trump supporter). The best part of this is that once people are there he can just raise his hands and say “well I can’t get them back, they’re outside the US!”