Post had nothing to do with murder or violence. It is clear who reddit serves.

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    Yesterday I saw clips on TV from us media supporting trump’s stances on Ukraine and stuff like that. Made me quite angry because the way that the presentation of the news was set up was to influence the viewer. Nothing else. It wasn’t to inform, it was to influence.

    When it’s about politics on Belgian nationalised TV channel, then it’s always various people who share their points of view and it’s more to inform than to dictate.

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    Removing billionaires is self defense, don’t let anyone tell you different. They commit acts of gross violence on the general populace every single day. It’s time to re-balance the scales.

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      I mean. I would never do something like this. And I don’t condone it. But people are free to do with their lives what they want. We have guns to fight tyranny.

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      You probably do more than you think. They control the flow of information because they know how dangerous an informed public would be to their interest (in keeping us in chains). If everyone understood how bad they’re getting fucked, there wouldn’t be anything left to do, the people would burn it all down.

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    I was shadow banned from Reddit for making a not violent Luigi post on 12/23/24. My account was older and had high karma. I am grateful to have found this community. The state of human rights in the United States is bleak. I watched my mom die from early onset Alzheimer’s in our broken system and I don’t even have words for the cruelty in our system. How can corporations be “people” if there’s no way to hold them accountable for mass murder? Our system is broken and corrupt from top to bottom and somehow it’s about to get much worse. Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.

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      i was banned before the anti-luigi initiative by reddit, it seems like they are coming up with new excuses to ban more and more people. so that only a small amount of users are left.

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        I think it’s targeted. They want to ban free thinkers and when new users come in, they will see a more facist base. Bet Reddit’s CEO got a fat check to make these changes. I got perm banned, then 3 day ban, after the first day it just went to perm again. Total IP ban.

        Fuck Reddit and it’s bullshit. Lemmy is the new home.

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      Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.

      ahem The Adjuster gave us all that, Luigi was hanging with me all week

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      Thanks for the writeup, I think I’ve been banned (edit: by admin, mods never banned me) about ten times on reddit over the years and it was always for shit you’d never get banned for on forums run by independents instead of corporations. Especially one owned by spez who idolizes Elon Musk.

      You may also enjoy SomethingAwful Forums. The $5 one time to register fee paywall keeps most jerks out. https://forums.somethingawful.com/

      Bans are public, and the mods are hilarious: https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php

      Imagine someone getting banned for lying on reddit in a Trump thread. Also, mods can add text to your public profile attached to every post you make. Sometimes it’s in size 50 red text. Sometimes it’s a flashing GIF calling the user a moron hyperlinked to an example.

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      My mom passed earlier this year from pneumonia. The insurance wouldn’t let her stay until it was gone. So we had to keep taking her out of the hospital for a couple days, and then putting her back for the same pneumonia, it lasted for months, because the hospital couldn’t fully treat it. She had to wait at home until she was able to go again, and it eventually took her. The pneumonia, stress and everything else was just too much for her heart. She ended up going into cardiac arrest multiple times and the pneumonia sepsis is listed as her official cause of death.

      Luigi is a fucking American hero and I wish more people could be like him. I unfortunately have to take care of these kids so I cannot but I will pray for whoever picks up that mantle.

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        I’m sorry for your loss. They murdered your mother for profit and it enrages me. I’ve personally suffered at the bloody hands of the insurance companies as well. The insurance companies fill me with a cold deep rage. I hope all their leaders know fear before they come to their end.

        I have kids as well. I’m no longer religious but I believe in Saint Luigi and pray that others are inspired by his noble actions. Truly.

        If you’re willing, please share the name of the insurance company and the CEO that murdered your mother for money.

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          The real villains are vanguard, black rock and the politicians that keep selling out the people. Things are about to get much worse with the cutting an privitazation ( this means it will be moved to a corrupt dysfunctional shareholder profit model) for medicade, Medicare, veterans healthcare and social security. The social contract is broken and the wealthy have waged war on the people. I was hoping that those doing this would have a wake up moment due to Luigi and ease up but instead the suppression has only increased. I don’t know how to fix this but the attack on the working class is “legal” and any resistance or hope is “illegal” or prohibitively expensive and easily stamped out. I get why people don’t want to bring children into the meat grinder that America has become.

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      I’ve had two accounts on Reddit, one got permabanned a few months ago, and I deleted the other a few days ago. The first one was my oldest account. Over a decade old, and massive karma. I also had my own sub where I shared my writing, and had a few thousand subscribers.

      Back when that incel neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes got doxxed on Twitter, I made a joke saying “as an incel, he should be glad that women know where he lives now in case they want to share a cocktail with him”, with a gif of a Molotov cocktail. Permabanned for “promoting/glorifying violence”. I thought it was funny, but fine. That one is on me.

      My other account, which was seven years old and had high karma, got banned from probably half a dozen subs in the past week or so for just mentioning Luigi, or even just up voting posts and comments mentioning him. That was when I decided Reddit was no longer for me.

      It’s one thing to ban someone for the kind of joke I made. While it was obviously a joke, it was still an overt glorification of violence. So I get that. But just for up voting a comment mentioning Luigi’s name in a nonviolent context?

      FUCK. THAT.

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        Totally with you. Tracking accounts and what they upvote and downvote and then banning specific accounts is pretty well fucked. All-the-while allowing and even enabling bots to flourish… Reddit is a mostly liberal flavored Facebook now. Total trash at this point. Nearly every sub just a bot filled echo chamber inside a library of echo chambers. Almost zero critical thinking. Obvious lies everywhere that are amplified until they become accepted as truth. Just like X/FB/IG/etc.

        On a positive side the general public opinion on Reddit is mostly encouraging. It still has that going for it. But power corrupts. And Reddit is a publicly traded company now. Beholden to it’s shareholders and investors. Hopefully Lemmy grows and fills that void now that Reddit has decided to side with the wealthy elite by censoring our voices. Now that Reddit is literally owned by these wealthy elite (just like all the rest) they cannot be trusted anymore.

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          It’s wild. You can go on Reddit and openly discuss why you think Hitler may have been the good guy, but if you up vote some AI art of Luigi, you get banned.

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            And when you consider the amount of bots on there… many of which were Russian, and proven to be attempting to influence our elections, these bots go unchecked. But Luigi getting upvotes warrants a ban… holy shit man what a world now.

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        But misogynistic trolls are perfectly fine posting ‘your body, my choice’ etc? It’s all hypocrisy.

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          You can openly call for the death penalty for people seeking an abortion, or for the extrajudicial execution of immigrants, but Satan forbid you up vote a cartoon of your favorite green hat wearing Nintendo plumber.

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      Lemmy’s security is largely in its obscurity. If the community ever gains the degree of popularity or prominence as Reddit, it will succumb to all the same socio-economic pressures.

      Hell, Reddit’s origin story isn’t far off from Lemmy’s. A left-wing FOSS guy pioneers a novel means of aggregating information in a relatively decentralized and community-oriented way. But then the capitalists move in, he’s arrested, the administration of the site is auctioned off to VCs, and the site is slowly mutated into an echo chamber for neoliberal propagandists and reactionary agitators to scream at one another, drowning everything else out.

      Lemmyites want to believe they’ve engineered a technical solution to what is ultimately a socio-economic problem. The human labor that makes Lemmy work can be attacked and replaced, the communities that form alienated from one another and censored by moderators and dispersed, and the popularity monetized here just like has happened elsewhere.

      This isn’t a safe social media space. Its just a lingering redoubt in an internet that’s been under siege for decades.

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        That it literally why we have Lemmy and other AP sites. Big corporations cannot take control of our spaces.

        Likewise reddit was never decentralised.

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        As I understand it, the fediverse as a whole is composed of instances, each one communicating with whichever other instances it wishes (the instances acting as social medias of sorts). Each instance is created by people making their own thing, so if one large instance (such as Lemmy.world) were to get taken over by filthy capitalists, someone could simply make a new, separate instance and choose not to federate with Lemmy world. Is this not the case?

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          if one large instance (such as Lemmy.world) were to get taken over by filthy capitalists, someone could simply make a new, separate instance and choose not to federate with Lemmy world.

          Websites get traded on the backend regularly without hemorrhaging their userbases. A large site is going to have a degree of inertia. People aren’t going to all simultaneously pick up out of .world and go to .world2 because someone on le.mee or .shi.tjustworks talks shit about the mods. There’s too much of a trust deficit, just for starters. And it would be a two-way street if it wasn’t (people in .world claiming le.mee was the one that got taken over and you should decamp from them to our instance).

          Past that, you can always make a new website even before federation. The trick is then getting a working community to include you in their network of links and shares. Federation makes that process more explicit and more pronounced. But most local instances have learned not to federate with everyone in the fediverse (because there’s so much gnarly shit out there), which means doing promotion and negotiation to get your new instance recognized by the survivors.

          In a single case of a single instance getting taken over, migration is possible if a bit painful. But if it happens repeatedly, thanks to a professional business team going after instances strategically while individual largely-ignorant users have to respond organically, then the Fediverse doesn’t have a chance over the long term. Eventually, the business interest gets control of enough high profile domains and pollutes the means of interpersonal communication to such a high degree that you either trust your instance or you abandon the Fediverse entirely.

          It becomes a game of “Who Is The Werewolf?”, which strategically favors the werewolves.

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            It’s also propaganda. The more the recipients, the more valuable it becomes to dump huge amounts of money into controlling the narrative with propaganda posts, for which you don’t need admin control over the servers.

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        Reddit was never FOSS. Linux is still going stong, even with vested financial interests.

        Most importantly, wie have already made the decision to leave traditional social media and build something better. If worst comes to wiorst, we’ll find each other again.

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          Reddit was never FOSS.

          Reddit went full open-source in 2008 with a Github repo, did a (possibly deliberately) poor job of maintaining the repo despite this source code resulting in a plethora of 3rd party site enhancements and feature suites, then ultimately close its code nine years later.

          Linux is still going stong, even with vested financial interests.

          RedHat did Linux extremely dirty, and they’re hardly the first. It also has a significantly larger, more skilled, and more international userbase.

          Most importantly, wie have already made the decision to leave traditional social media and build something better.

          That’s a beautiful lie. Lemmy’s federation has been its pioneering feature, but it continues to backslide into Reddit-with-Extra-Steps. If anyone could claim they were building something truly novel, it was Mastadon. But that complexity and novelty has been an albatross around their necks since day one.

          If worst comes to wiorst, we’ll find each other again.

          :-/

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            If worst comes to wiorst, we’ll find each other again.

            :-/

            I’ll find you, UnderpantsWeevil. Under every rock, under every pant I’ll look, till I find you precious weevil.

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            Reddit went full open-source in 2008 with a Github repo

            I stand corrected, although it seems to have beern a corporate gambit.

            I can see where you’re coming from, reading you’re other reply in this thread, but I’ll just try to hold on to my idealism a bit longer :)

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    They want to establish the narrative of Luigi-the-terrorist, but human beings know who is the reasonable one.

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      human beings know who is the reasonable one

      I remember people saying that about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden twenty years ago. It didn’t take long for popular opinion to turn on them, though. Just call the whistleblowers allies of the opposition party or props of an evil foreign government. Americans hate that. And the American public soured on them rapidly, as a result.

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        I don’t know where you live, but you can say that about your own context. What happened to Assange has no name, shame on the USA government! Fortunately, not all populations are equally easy-handled.

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        That’s why we need to stop relying on idols and figureheads. I dont even necessarily think we need to organize, but to act as individuals capable of operating independently from central leadership. Most of us have the same goal, after all. It’s just most of us are still too comfortable or afraid to do anything, and that’s because we invested too much in leaders or orgs that we watch get assassinated and destroyed. But they can’t get all of us, especially if we act independently, and soon.

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    They’ll post this on a news subreddit where they all consume said media daily and see zero irony.

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    They’re scared of anything that challenges their position even subtly. So they remove posts like this to avoid questioning the narrative. Hopefully their efforts will backfire with the Streisand effect.

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    This is really one of the biggest problem we have. They influence elections, they influence public opinion, they spin the narrative as they want.

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    The moment Robber Barons were first stopped, they starting working to rig things so they are never stopped again.

    The only way to remind them that they have no such power is the French way.

    All Tesla dealerships should be on fire by now. Now protected by a wall of obese ‘police’ that would not pass the most lenient tests to join the police force in any country of the EU.

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    The monopoly men have worked very hard over the past one hundred years to stamp out class consciousness in the US. They won’t give in without a fight.

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      Bootlickers is the battle ground

      If owners control them, they win

      If they gain class solidarity, owners lose

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    Posting an image of a person who is known to everyone as the (suspected) murderer of a capitalist, whom he explicitly murdered for his capitalistic practices, and referring to a distinct but similar set of calitalistic practices is not “a non-violent Luigi post”. It’s not directly calling for violence, sure. But the connection is pretty clear. If the Right did something like that, we’d probably call it a ((likely intentionally) poorly disguised) dog whistle.

    I’m not saying the post is evil and ban-worthy. Which side an action is done for matters. You might say, the ends justify the means. But get your terminology right, and shed the centrists’ illusions. And non-violence is an illusion. This is the propaganda theatre of a class war. And Reddit is fighting for the enemy.