Can’t escape AI slop projects from meat proxies man. Every single open source project smells like Claude Code recently. Sad times.

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    “it’s unethical”

    Uh huh. Which framework? Kantian? Virtue ethics? Rawlsian justice? Utilitarianism? Pick a card, any card.

    Lay it out, big man. Nail that shit to the door like Martin Luther.

    PS: “I don’t like it” != “it’s unethical”

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      Christ do we really need to lay out a fucking “framework” of ethicality to come to the conclusion, that no, I don’t really like my software to be haphazardly glued together with chewing gum, duct tape and the Environment Destroyer built on billions of lines of code. The licensing issue itself is fucked beyond belief here, and the “originality” of said code.

      Fuck me Amazon is literally shredding warehouses of books to keep up this bullshit. So my ethical framework is one that says “Fuck you”, to you specifically, the most.

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      You feel proud after that reply don’t you? We all have functioning brains. I think it’s obvious. For example from the Wikipedia page.

      • Utilitarianism: “Utilitarianism is a family of theories in normative ethics that prescribe actions that maximize happiness and well-being for all affected individuals.”

      This one’s easy when you consider people that lost their jobs. If you think “fuck em” then think about how many people got affected mentally because of these chatbots. Also I don’t think Iranian and Palestinian kids being bombed with the help from AI companies would also feel happy about it.

      The entire art industry is damaged beyond repair and it’s only getting worse. So many slop movies, music, books, games etc. are being released and it’s becoming harder by day to distinguish them from actual art made by humans.

      The architects building your buildings, the engineers designing your airplanes or online services, the people running the fucking government are all mostly using AI to do so much that they are slowly forgetting how to do it themselves.

      You can’t tell me a single fucking good thing large scale generative AI contributed to this world. Don’t come at me with marketing bs like some random math problem or “cancer research”.

      We spent so much money on this bs and we have nothing apart from some broken research and incompetent people thinking they are not. If you are so entitled that you think it doesn’t matter to you because you love creating some slop with Claude’s arm up your ass then good for you.

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        Proud? Nah. Bemused, sure.

        You hit Wikipedia and looked up utilitarianism. Cool.

        Utilitarianism requires weighing all affected parties, not just the ones harmed. AI-assisted diagnosis in underserved regions. Accessibility tools for people who can’t afford specialists. Climate modelling. Translation breaking language barriers. Medical research leading to a Nobel Prize in Medicine.

        “Can’t name a single good thing” isn’t a utilitarian argument. It’s vibes. And it’s prima facie untrue. There’s not much point in citing counter-examples because you’ve already made your mind up. Cf. your post history on Fuck AI.

        The warfare point is a military policy conversation, not a ChatGPT one.

        The art and skill atrophy concerns are legit. But that’s a “how do we manage this” conversation, not “therefore unethical.”

        Note by the way I haven’t personally attacked you or accused you of having Claude’s arm up YOUR ass? That’s called an ad-hominem - look that up in your next wikipedia search.