Avoiding US goods and services – from tech to whisky to air travel – has forced many to find a new way of living

This week the US imposed 50% tariffs on US$20bn (£15bn) of Canadian goods, and Mark Carney, the country’s prime minister, has vowed to match them “dollar for dollar” after the collapse of trade talks between the two countries last weekend. Donald Trump retaliated on Thursday by ordering the federal government to rename Lake Ontario to Lake America.

Such actions have added fuel to a widespread boycott of US products and services by Canadians that began early last year in response to the president’s trade war and threats to annex his northern neighbour.

More than 3,500 people from across Canada shared with the Guardian via an online callout how they have made changes to their lives in response to the US administration’s political and economic stance. Many expressed deep anger and sadness, but remained resolute that this was now a new way of living.

  • VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m trying to go to England, not Singapore. Pretty sure they don’t need Americans to teach the English how to speak English

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      Don’t tell them that, they likely think that they do. They also seem to think a temp job overseas is the same as emigrating.

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        10 years in-country is a bit different than a temp job. You clearly have never been anywhere. But nice try, trollbot!

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          Troll bot, ha. you did not work 10 years on the same contract, I do know how at least that much works.

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              22 hours ago

              Moving to a new nation. Actually most people would like to have job security.

              Really though its more about the limits work visas impose that limit the contract lengths of international work.

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                Isn’t a 1 year work contract enough to get a residence permit in most countries?

                I guess it may not be in some countries, but I reckon most of them should be fine with that.

                It is unlikely to move to a new country with a 10 years contract, unless you go for a specific highly skilled position.

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                  22 hours ago

                  One year no, most need more. But the real issue is not the one year contract but the one year only contracts like most English teaching jobs. Also as this whole thread of back and forward is about the “if you (americans) don’t like it you can leave” statement this does not work since america is one of only two nations that demand a cut of you income while working outside the states. Meaning you can leave but not really stop being and paying into american.

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                    21 hours ago

                    Moving to a new nation with a family, restricting yourself to a specific job is always going to be difficult; regardless where you are from.

                    I am aware of the problem with US taxation on foreign income. In fact I know many people who move away from the US while retaining a job in the US. In many places this allows them to mostly only pay taxes in the US.

                    However, the statement is correct in my opinion: if you don’t like your country you can leave. It is indeed not easy, but definitely possible.

                    I know plenty of people where I live who came with their whole family without money and without a job, now they have a job and their family living here.

                    Plenty people moved with one year contracts, plenty people moved with contracts of just a few months, plenty people moved with a tourist visa and then found a job.

                    I have met people who have done this from many different countries to many different countries. In many cases it was difficult, in others it was simpler.

                    I know plenty Americans who moved to other countries and live well and were able to fix any bureaucratical problem in-between.

                    Are you saying that US citizens are impossibilitated to move due to the double taxation? Is that such a huge problem as to make it unfeasible? It surely does not make it easier, but plenty people before you were able to.

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      I never said anything about Singapore so please quit lying and putting words in my mouth I never said (although I did date an incredible girl from there, I just liked Malaysia better). And as Singapore was an English colony (prior to the American colonies), they already speak English better than you and I ever will.

      Are you really trying to blame America because England spoke English before America even existed? Just wow…

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        You said I could go teach English. To who? The English in England? Scotland? Ireland? Canada? Australia?

        I’m trying to move to a place where they already speak English, dipshit

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          But I wan’t talking to you, trollbot. If you want to move to a place that already speaks English, you’ll likely need to have 1) a skill they need or 2) a decent income or 3) a decent business proposal. But that’s the rules of those countries preventing you from moving there, not America. But as you’re just a trollbot, you can’t emigrate anyways.

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              You can still teach English in those countries just like you can teach English here. Believe it or not high schools, colleges and universities there have English classes just like they do here. They also crave tech workers and nurses.

              The problem here isn’t that you can’t leave, the problem is you trying to invent excuses on why you think you can’t leave.

              But as a trollbot, you completely ignore fact because you think it enables you to troll. The funny part is, I’m wasting your resources at a cost to your owner.

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                  Oh because you think I’m psychic or something?

                  I’ve actually seen 20-year-olds overseas as well as 75-year-olds, both taught oral English at private language schools and were paid good money. You want to put limitations on yourself, hey that’s your business. But don’t complain to others because you refuse to do anything for yourself. You’re just here to whine and complain. That’s just sad.

                  The problem here isn’t me, or the USA, or your country of choice. It’s your own refusal and desire to stay a miserable human being. Grow up.

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                    6 hours ago

                    I told you what you needed to know, it’s not my fault if you thought you knew more about my life than me

                    I’m not miserable at all. I don’t despise life in America, I’m just not proud to be an American anymore

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        YOU CAN NOT LEAVE AMERICA AND DENOUNCE YOUR CITIZENSHIP, STOP PAYING TAXES WHILE ABROAD (a thing unique to the states), OR BECOME NOT AN AMERICAN WITHOUT BECOMING STATELESS.

        Saying you are “free to leave” is not really telling the whole story now is it? The fact that we need it in all caps might just get the concept though.