Israelis from across the political spectrum are angry about the interim deal between the U.S. and Iran, calling it a disaster for Israel and directing their fury at one man: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
But there are other countries doing the same, even with their own genocides and yet we don’t hear a peep on the global news. So why are they so special? Why is that tragedy worth all our attention and the others don’t seem to be?
Two and a half years into an active ongoing high tech industrialised genocide and you come around with that smelly removed hasbara take to deflect. The countries doing “the same” are the countries enabling this shit. So let’s see:
Maybe it could have something to do with the US, UK, Germany and others (ThE wEsT) actively facilitating that fascist Lebensraum endeavour by finance, ideology, policy, weaponry, research, development, logistics, infrastructure, consent manufacturing, domestic opposition repression, domestic justice disintegration – instead of doing anything at all to put an end to it.
Maybe because Israeli mass murderers and mass rapists are free to move anywhere in the West and are institutionally protected from any consequences for their vile deeds or are even celebrated as heroes or at least as poor victims.
Maybe because the West is acting antisemitic, by equating Zionism and Judaism; and people really don’t like Anti-Semitism for some reason.
Maybe because “never again” was supposed to mean “never again”.
Maybe because anyone is able to witness the horrors live on their devices every day.
Maybe because it’s THE main showcase for western value hypocrisy.
Maybe because the West is ignoring international law and the international court.
Maybe because the West is doing nothing to protect their own citizens that decide to take action – but rather deport them, strip them of their citizenship, beat them up, jail them, treat them as terrorists?
Maybe because western police are actively suppressing activist Jews, underscoring the antisemitic and hypocritical nature of their policies.
Maybe because it’s furthering societal division?
Maybe because it’s racist as fuck?
Maybe because it’s a western colony?
Maybe because it’s an Apartheid regime?
Maybe because your stance is symbolic of what the German Staatsräson is supposed to accomplish – wilful ignorance.
Idk, man, maybe you could just delete your account again, doesn’t seem to be worth the constant attention with removed takes like that.
There is Sudan, particularly the Darfur region in which non-Arab ethnic groups, such as the Masalit, Fur, and Zaghawa have been targeted for eradication by the Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Direct deaths from conflict 30,000 to over 150,000+. Indirect/Famine Deaths are estimated at 500,000+ (primarily children).
Myanmar (Burma), where the Rohingya Muslims are being eradicated by the The Myanmar Military. Initial Genocidal Campaign (2017) at least 9,000 to 25,000+ Rohingya deaths. Ongoing Post-Coup Civil War (2021–Present): Thousands more across multiple ethnic groups.
China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government.
There has been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.
Ethiopia (Amhara and Tigray Regions) where the Ethnic Amharas (and previously Tigrayans) are being eradicated by the state security forces and various regional ethnic militias. Tigray War (2020–2022): Estimated 600,000+ deaths. Amhara Conflict (2023–Present): 7,700 to 10,000+ deaths.
For reference the Gaza genocide. Direct Violent Deaths: Over 73,000 Palestinians. Presumed/Indirect Deaths: 10,000+ missing under rubble; tens of thousands more from disease/starvation to date.
So it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides particularly given how horrific the incidents in the Tigary and Darfur region are. Its almost as if the global and western news doesn’t care about brown people.
Just noting that a lot of human suffering seems to go unnoticed and what we choose to focus on particularly in the global news doesn’t seem related to the sheer amount of human tragedy but more so how financially influential something is, particularly towards the wealthier countries and regions.
So you’re doubling down, you’re a proud Anti-Deutscher or what? Stop spamming your false equivalencies. Nice concern troll you are.
Maybe read my comment and try to understand to difference, as your take just doesn’t make any sense as an answer. It’s no argument.
You kinda started the conversation pretty rudely, I’m not sure why I should oblige such unbecoming behavior. You get better responses when you aren’t rude generally speaking.
Most of the conflicts in the world are civil wars where both side has a certain level of popular support making in hard to take side. There is only two country doing settler colonialism which are genocidal by default Israel and Russia.
Israel is the only country that is talking about total extermination of a whole population of 2 millions not just a particular ethnic group . Palestine colonization is the longest current colonization . 78 goddamn years of oppression. Also no other conflicts get as much support from the usa and the west where it side with the agressor.
Because Palestinians are the right brown people, the even larger death toll happening in the Sahel is being perpetrated by brown people so its not important. The progressives on the left only care when brown people are being killed by white or white adjacent folks which is why I take none of them seriously.
You have literally zero comment or post about Sudan. You just mad that people talk about Israel atrocities and weaponize other conflicts to minimize the Palestinian one Who’s the hypocrite again?
Well, that and the fact that this website is largely dominated by US, Anglo sphere, and Western countries, which generally have a higher degree of direct complicity in the Palestinian genocide than in the Sahel
So we’re hypocrites, got it, the RSF kills more of one ethnic background in one day than the entire Israel/American war, and more than the Ukrainian losses is their war leaving a blood stain in one city that can be seen from space but it’s cool because those folks weren’t Palestinian.
To piggyback, here are the other current genocides.
There is Sudan, particularly the Darfur region in which non-Arab ethnic groups, such as the Masalit, Fur, and Zaghawa have been targeted for eradication by the Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Direct deaths from conflict 30,000 to over 150,000+. Indirect/Famine Deaths are estimated at 500,000+ (primarily children).
Myanmar (Burma), where the Rohingya Muslims are being eradicated by the The Myanmar Military. Initial Genocidal Campaign (2017) at least 9,000 to 25,000+ Rohingya deaths. Ongoing Post-Coup Civil War (2021–Present): Thousands more across multiple ethnic groups.
China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government. There’s been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.
Ethiopia (Amhara and Tigray Regions) where the Ethnic Amharas (and previously Tigrayans) are being eradicated by the state security forces and various regional ethnic militias. Tigray War (2020–2022): Estimated 600,000+ deaths. Amhara Conflict (2023–Present): 7,700 to 10,000+ deaths.
For reference the Gaza genocide. Direct Violent Deaths: Over 73,000 Palestinians. Presumed/Indirect Deaths: 10,000+ missing under rubble; tens of thousands more from disease/starvation to date.
China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government. There’s been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.
You’re right, anything critical or controversial about China is actually false. It is indeed a utopia in which there is no human suffering whatsoever. Anyone who says otherwise is only spreading propaganda because they’re jealous. Only things critical or controversial about other countries are true.
No, just the reframing of normal prisons as eradication camps when international observers have visited them as well as complete fabrication of data is false. No international group has ever found evidence of the US’ allegations that China is committing genocide.
We know what genocide looks like in a police state thanks to Israel. It looks like livestreams and constant video coverage. It looks like tens of thousands of refugees making their way out of a tightly controlled border. It looks like direct testimonials and actual victims with verifable residency in the area.
It does not look like US and Turkey born people claiming vague and unprovable family members totally disappeared. It does not look like AI-Generated log books from a province that went digital before the claim was made. It does not look like pictures from a drug rehab being passed off as an extermination camp. It does not look like claiming a crackdown on terrorists funded by the US and Turkey, as revealed in leaked CIA documents, is a racially motivated extermination campaign.
The Great Firewall was a good idea but its implementation is overall detrimental to China and the wider world, disallowing collaboration and allowing western audiences to have very little idea of how China actually operates besides apps like rednote which have a ‘wink and a nod’ agreement to bypass it.
The speed at which the upper classes are growing compared to the development of poor areas isn’t good, especially as we enter a lull in the available construction labor pool and it would be much better if we utilized the overabundance of labor we have now to ensure less labor is needed as the population shrinks overtime. This could be funded by moderate tax increases to corporations, especially those who have made most their money via exports.
Cliques naturally form in any place where there’s multiple humans and certain cliques in government appear to be harmful and allow corruption to flourish. While Xi has been great at fighting corruption especially compared to previous party presidents, this will end and the party has no concrete anti-corruption measures especially at the lower levels where corruption actually flourishes. If Xi loses the upcoming election or takes his retirement there likely would be a pro-western push, and with it much more corruption at all levels of government the same as the last pro-western push; I would love to see measures that eliminate that risk.
The current citizenship process is flawed at best, and should offer a path for non-citizens and people with greater than 4th gen ancestry to get citizenship without having to essentially be the next Mao. Especially given the One China attitude which encompasses many different distinct regions.
Stop weaponizing other conflicts to minimize what is happening in Gaza and palestine, you scummy hypocrite. Do you also complain about how much Ukrainian news there is on lemmy?
There’s space for everything. There’s really no global news coverage shortage for Gaza. Amongst my peers it’s honestly the only genocide they are even aware of. They’re always a bit puzzled to hear it’s not the only one.
You complained about how there is too much posts about gaza rsther than not enough about other conflicts. Don’t insult our intelligence we know really well that you try to weaponize the other conflicts to call anti colonization and genocide in Gaza hypocrites like the pro colonization also do
You complain about too much politics on Lemmy with your 3 days old account and engage in rage baiting and concern trolling on political topics.
How about you just don’t subscribe to political communities then? That’s gonna make live easier for everyone, you don’t see all the politics you don’t like and the communities don’t have to put up with your bad faith conduct.
Just a question, how do you feel about legitimate criticism of China? Are they anti-china propaganda or just legitimate criticism? Now for the sake of the discussion just assume someone gave you X criticism of China and it’s legitimate. I don’t want you running from answering by bringing up other stuff. It’s called a hypothetical and I’m sure you can manage. We can start your new discussion after this one is finished.
They can’t get out of the global news because they will continue to steal more land and terrorize the whole region
Not just the region, fascism will continue to feed until it eats itself. Bibi will try to take the entire world until we stop him.
But there are other countries doing the same, even with their own genocides and yet we don’t hear a peep on the global news. So why are they so special? Why is that tragedy worth all our attention and the others don’t seem to be?
Two and a half years into an active ongoing high tech industrialised genocide and you come around with that smelly removed hasbara take to deflect. The countries doing “the same” are the countries enabling this shit. So let’s see:
Idk, man, maybe you could just delete your account again, doesn’t seem to be worth the constant attention with removed takes like that.
There is Sudan, particularly the Darfur region in which non-Arab ethnic groups, such as the Masalit, Fur, and Zaghawa have been targeted for eradication by the Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Direct deaths from conflict 30,000 to over 150,000+. Indirect/Famine Deaths are estimated at 500,000+ (primarily children).
Myanmar (Burma), where the Rohingya Muslims are being eradicated by the The Myanmar Military. Initial Genocidal Campaign (2017) at least 9,000 to 25,000+ Rohingya deaths. Ongoing Post-Coup Civil War (2021–Present): Thousands more across multiple ethnic groups.
China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government. There has been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.
Ethiopia (Amhara and Tigray Regions) where the Ethnic Amharas (and previously Tigrayans) are being eradicated by the state security forces and various regional ethnic militias. Tigray War (2020–2022): Estimated 600,000+ deaths. Amhara Conflict (2023–Present): 7,700 to 10,000+ deaths.
For reference the Gaza genocide. Direct Violent Deaths: Over 73,000 Palestinians. Presumed/Indirect Deaths: 10,000+ missing under rubble; tens of thousands more from disease/starvation to date.
So it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides particularly given how horrific the incidents in the Tigary and Darfur region are. Its almost as if the global and western news doesn’t care about brown people.
Is this a genocide competition or something? Jesus Christ
It is a zionazi talking point
Just noting that a lot of human suffering seems to go unnoticed and what we choose to focus on particularly in the global news doesn’t seem related to the sheer amount of human tragedy but more so how financially influential something is, particularly towards the wealthier countries and regions.
So you’re doubling down, you’re a proud Anti-Deutscher or what? Stop spamming your false equivalencies. Nice concern troll you are. Maybe read my comment and try to understand to difference, as your take just doesn’t make any sense as an answer. It’s no argument.
It’s just facts. If they bother you then I may have some unfortunate news for you.
You failed to engage with my answer to your earlier comment, the one before your c&p answer. How about you do that first.
You kinda started the conversation pretty rudely, I’m not sure why I should oblige such unbecoming behavior. You get better responses when you aren’t rude generally speaking.
Just fuck off. Nobody more disrespectful and rude then you minimize genocide in Gaza. Nobody want to see scums like you on the fediverse.
I’m sure your hurt feelings are the issue here. I‘m so sorry, I may have been rude to you. How about now?
Most of the conflicts in the world are civil wars where both side has a certain level of popular support making in hard to take side. There is only two country doing settler colonialism which are genocidal by default Israel and Russia.
Israel is the only country that is talking about total extermination of a whole population of 2 millions not just a particular ethnic group . Palestine colonization is the longest current colonization . 78 goddamn years of oppression. Also no other conflicts get as much support from the usa and the west where it side with the agressor.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war
Because Palestinians are the right brown people, the even larger death toll happening in the Sahel is being perpetrated by brown people so its not important. The progressives on the left only care when brown people are being killed by white or white adjacent folks which is why I take none of them seriously.
You have literally zero comment or post about Sudan. You just mad that people talk about Israel atrocities and weaponize other conflicts to minimize the Palestinian one Who’s the hypocrite again?
Most of the people here are in the US, the country that is directly funding the genocide in Gaza.
So I dunno, maybe that’s one reason why it’s talked about more. Because our taxes are literally paying for it.
Well, that and the fact that this website is largely dominated by US, Anglo sphere, and Western countries, which generally have a higher degree of direct complicity in the Palestinian genocide than in the Sahel
So we’re hypocrites, got it, the RSF kills more of one ethnic background in one day than the entire Israel/American war, and more than the Ukrainian losses is their war leaving a blood stain in one city that can be seen from space but it’s cool because those folks weren’t Palestinian.
To piggyback, here are the other current genocides.
There is Sudan, particularly the Darfur region in which non-Arab ethnic groups, such as the Masalit, Fur, and Zaghawa have been targeted for eradication by the Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Direct deaths from conflict 30,000 to over 150,000+. Indirect/Famine Deaths are estimated at 500,000+ (primarily children).
Myanmar (Burma), where the Rohingya Muslims are being eradicated by the The Myanmar Military. Initial Genocidal Campaign (2017) at least 9,000 to 25,000+ Rohingya deaths. Ongoing Post-Coup Civil War (2021–Present): Thousands more across multiple ethnic groups.
China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government. There’s been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.
Ethiopia (Amhara and Tigray Regions) where the Ethnic Amharas (and previously Tigrayans) are being eradicated by the state security forces and various regional ethnic militias. Tigray War (2020–2022): Estimated 600,000+ deaths. Amhara Conflict (2023–Present): 7,700 to 10,000+ deaths.
For reference the Gaza genocide. Direct Violent Deaths: Over 73,000 Palestinians. Presumed/Indirect Deaths: 10,000+ missing under rubble; tens of thousands more from disease/starvation to date.
None of this is true btw.
You’re right, anything critical or controversial about China is actually false. It is indeed a utopia in which there is no human suffering whatsoever. Anyone who says otherwise is only spreading propaganda because they’re jealous. Only things critical or controversial about other countries are true.
No, just the reframing of normal prisons as eradication camps when international observers have visited them as well as complete fabrication of data is false. No international group has ever found evidence of the US’ allegations that China is committing genocide.
We know what genocide looks like in a police state thanks to Israel. It looks like livestreams and constant video coverage. It looks like tens of thousands of refugees making their way out of a tightly controlled border. It looks like direct testimonials and actual victims with verifable residency in the area.
It does not look like US and Turkey born people claiming vague and unprovable family members totally disappeared. It does not look like AI-Generated log books from a province that went digital before the claim was made. It does not look like pictures from a drug rehab being passed off as an extermination camp. It does not look like claiming a crackdown on terrorists funded by the US and Turkey, as revealed in leaked CIA documents, is a racially motivated extermination campaign.
What’s one criticism you have of China or the CCP?
The CCP doesn’t exist, but for the CPC:
The Great Firewall was a good idea but its implementation is overall detrimental to China and the wider world, disallowing collaboration and allowing western audiences to have very little idea of how China actually operates besides apps like rednote which have a ‘wink and a nod’ agreement to bypass it.
The speed at which the upper classes are growing compared to the development of poor areas isn’t good, especially as we enter a lull in the available construction labor pool and it would be much better if we utilized the overabundance of labor we have now to ensure less labor is needed as the population shrinks overtime. This could be funded by moderate tax increases to corporations, especially those who have made most their money via exports.
Cliques naturally form in any place where there’s multiple humans and certain cliques in government appear to be harmful and allow corruption to flourish. While Xi has been great at fighting corruption especially compared to previous party presidents, this will end and the party has no concrete anti-corruption measures especially at the lower levels where corruption actually flourishes. If Xi loses the upcoming election or takes his retirement there likely would be a pro-western push, and with it much more corruption at all levels of government the same as the last pro-western push; I would love to see measures that eliminate that risk.
The current citizenship process is flawed at best, and should offer a path for non-citizens and people with greater than 4th gen ancestry to get citizenship without having to essentially be the next Mao. Especially given the One China attitude which encompasses many different distinct regions.
Stop weaponizing other conflicts to minimize what is happening in Gaza and palestine, you scummy hypocrite. Do you also complain about how much Ukrainian news there is on lemmy?
There’s space for everything. There’s really no global news coverage shortage for Gaza. Amongst my peers it’s honestly the only genocide they are even aware of. They’re always a bit puzzled to hear it’s not the only one.
You complained about how there is too much posts about gaza rsther than not enough about other conflicts. Don’t insult our intelligence we know really well that you try to weaponize the other conflicts to call anti colonization and genocide in Gaza hypocrites like the pro colonization also do
This would have been an informative comment without the anti-China propaganda.
Is anything negative about china anti-china propaganda?
Nobody said that. Removed with your strawman.
You complain about too much politics on Lemmy with your 3 days old account and engage in rage baiting and concern trolling on political topics. How about you just don’t subscribe to political communities then? That’s gonna make live easier for everyone, you don’t see all the politics you don’t like and the communities don’t have to put up with your bad faith conduct.
Just a question, how do you feel about legitimate criticism of China? Are they anti-china propaganda or just legitimate criticism? Now for the sake of the discussion just assume someone gave you X criticism of China and it’s legitimate. I don’t want you running from answering by bringing up other stuff. It’s called a hypothetical and I’m sure you can manage. We can start your new discussion after this one is finished.