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    There is Sudan, particularly the Darfur region in which non-Arab ethnic groups, such as the Masalit, Fur, and Zaghawa have been targeted for eradication by the Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Direct deaths from conflict 30,000 to over 150,000+. Indirect/Famine Deaths are estimated at 500,000+ (primarily children).

    Myanmar (Burma), where the Rohingya Muslims are being eradicated by the The Myanmar Military. Initial Genocidal Campaign (2017) at least 9,000 to 25,000+ Rohingya deaths. Ongoing Post-Coup Civil War (2021–Present): Thousands more across multiple ethnic groups.

    China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region) where the Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic minorities are being eradicated by the Chinese Government. Death toll is inconclusive due to strict control of information by the Chinese government. There has been an 84% drop in natural population growth rates in predominantly Uyghur regions. Another point of importance is the consistent (relative to anywhere else on earth) surplus of human organs for transplant in China.

    Ethiopia (Amhara and Tigray Regions) where the Ethnic Amharas (and previously Tigrayans) are being eradicated by the state security forces and various regional ethnic militias. Tigray War (2020–2022): Estimated 600,000+ deaths. Amhara Conflict (2023–Present): 7,700 to 10,000+ deaths.

    For reference the Gaza genocide. Direct Violent Deaths: Over 73,000 Palestinians. Presumed/Indirect Deaths: 10,000+ missing under rubble; tens of thousands more from disease/starvation to date.

    So it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides particularly given how horrific the incidents in the Tigary and Darfur region are. Its almost as if the global and western news doesn’t care about brown people.

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        11 hours ago

        Just noting that a lot of human suffering seems to go unnoticed and what we choose to focus on particularly in the global news doesn’t seem related to the sheer amount of human tragedy but more so how financially influential something is, particularly towards the wealthier countries and regions.

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      So you’re doubling down, you’re a proud Anti-Deutscher or what? Stop spamming your false equivalencies. Nice concern troll you are. Maybe read my comment and try to understand to difference, as your take just doesn’t make any sense as an answer. It’s no argument.

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          21 hours ago

          You failed to engage with my answer to your earlier comment, the one before your c&p answer. How about you do that first.

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            21 hours ago

            You kinda started the conversation pretty rudely, I’m not sure why I should oblige such unbecoming behavior. You get better responses when you aren’t rude generally speaking.

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              Just fuck off. Nobody more disrespectful and rude then you minimize genocide in Gaza. Nobody want to see scums like you on the fediverse.

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                I don’t think just talking about what’s happening literally is minimizing anything. All. Of these atrocities should end immediately. If that view makes me scum to you then I have bad news for you buddy.

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                  10 hours ago

                  You was mad that there is too much posts about Israel making you a scum. Only zionists use your dumb taking point. Just fuck off , you can go back to reddit where there is plenty of other zionists

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                    Mad? Not really. I’m sad there’s not enough coverage on other tragedies. Personally I would rather all of these tragedies end so I guess wanting the killings in Gaza to end and the killings elsewhere to end makes a dumb Zionist then I guess that’s how it is although I don’t think actual Zionist would agree with my views to free Palestine.

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              I’m sure your hurt feelings are the issue here. I‘m so sorry, I may have been rude to you. How about now?

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                I’m sure that was an honest apology. Anyways, didn’t your mom or dad or whoever raised you teach you any manners? We can have a discussion without calling each other names, you know like rational and civil adults.

                To answer your question, it’s not just western news that is shy of these other genocides, its global news and well global news is global. Personally I think it boils down to money and influence. For example if there is country X who has zero influence internationally and is killing millions of people in its borders or even millions in country Y who itself has minimal international influence then the rest of humanity is mostly fine with it because it doesn’t affect their money.

                Obviously Iran has a massive influence on oil and global trade so any issue there will get consistent global coverage. Similarly Israel and their greater Israel plan is destabilizing an entire region which similarly messes with global trade and commerce so that’s going to get a lot of attention.

                In contrast to the above what’s happening in the Tigray region of Ethiopia generally doesn’t affect global commerce or threaten to destabilize a region that heavily affects global commerce.

                Aka people don’t care about much unless it affects them personally generally speaking. All their virtue and moral signaling over one tragedy but not any other is kinda a farce.

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                  If you yourself had any manners, you wouldn’t troll on an issue like that. Also, I didn’t call you names, I directly asked if you are Anti-Deutsch. You could just say “No, I’m not, that’s not my ideology. I’m just a Zionist, without the pretence of leftism”. If name-calling is that I call you out on the obvious bad faith troll behaviour, then idk, maybe stop playing victim, it doesn’t suite you.

                  In the comment I answered to, you started of with a deflection away from Israel, with classic whataboutism: “But there are other countries doing the same”. WhY dOeS nObOdY tAlK aBoUt ThIS oThEr StUfF.

                  Then you asked two questions:

                  So why are they so special? Why is that tragedy worth all our attention and the others don’t seem to be?

                  I answered both of these questions, directly. I gave you my take, why this might be different from other atrocities around the world. You ignored it entirely and spam-pasted your previous comment with a little amendment how “it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides” and immediately again, deflected to another issue, which again was simply whataboutism. So, it’s kinda weird that you are talking about manners, if you yourself aren’t even able to actually stay in the conversation, but ignore people’s engagement completely. Quite demeaning, don’t you think?

                  Now you slyly pretend to engage with what I said with “To answer your question, it’s not just western news that (…)”, but you don’t actually answer any question I put forward. What you do instead is deflect from the actual substance of what I commented and derail towards what might or might not be your honest take, but it’s not in any way shape or form in reference to what has been said.

                  I could engage with your takes, I would actually respect them as good faith commentary, if only you actually engaged with the substance of my messages. You don’t, you are a troll.

                  You are a bad faith actor and I call you out for it. Directly engage with the comment I made above, do it now. Do you agree with my reasoning, why it’s different? If you don’t agree, reply with reference to what has been said, explain why the points I made are, in your view, not a differentiating factor. But you don’t do any of that, you keep ignoring the topic and deflect, deflect, deflect. You are acting in bad faith. We are done, if you don’t engage with the answers I gave to your very own questions.

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                    Dude you can’t complain about something you’re doing yourself. If you haven’t noticed there’s a bit of sarcasm on both sides of the fence here. So this is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black eh?

                    Officially I’m not mentally enslaved by or beholden to any nation, religion, political ideology or culture. I wish all minds everywhere in existence experience less needless and avoidable suffering, not just human minds on earth.

                    Also no there are other tragedies happening and I do believe people ignore them mainly because it doesn’t mess with their money and that’s about the ins and outs of it. Either that or it’s not connected to the abrahamic faiths and all the wonders that’s brought humanity. Seriously there’s like too many abrahamic death cults trying to end the world. Also there is a vague brown (or browner) people are less human thing going on.