Israelis from across the political spectrum are angry about the interim deal between the U.S. and Iran, calling it a disaster for Israel and directing their fury at one man: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
You kinda started the conversation pretty rudely, I’m not sure why I should oblige such unbecoming behavior. You get better responses when you aren’t rude generally speaking.
I don’t think just talking about what’s happening literally is minimizing anything. All. Of these atrocities should end immediately. If that view makes me scum to you then I have bad news for you buddy.
You was mad that there is too much posts about Israel making you a scum. Only zionists use your dumb taking point. Just fuck off , you can go back to reddit where there is plenty of other zionists
Mad? Not really. I’m sad there’s not enough coverage on other tragedies. Personally I would rather all of these tragedies end so I guess wanting the killings in Gaza to end and the killings elsewhere to end makes a dumb Zionist then I guess that’s how it is although I don’t think actual Zionist would agree with my views to free Palestine.
I feel like you haven’t been reading anything I’ve been saying. Idk man the people on here sure like to think I am but I’m pretty sure actual Zionist would hate me even more.
To myself I am free of any national, religious, cultural, or political ideology beyond that I want to end needless and avoidable suffering for all minds anywhere in existence. That includes all humans and even nonhuman minds on earth as well as minds anywhere else in existence. So if by your definition that makes me a Zionist then so be it but I don’t think a Zionist would agree with the above definition. In short call me whatever you want, it won’t change the above statement for me.
I’m sure that was an honest apology. Anyways, didn’t your mom or dad or whoever raised you teach you any manners? We can have a discussion without calling each other names, you know like rational and civil adults.
To answer your question, it’s not just western news that is shy of these other genocides, its global news and well global news is global. Personally I think it boils down to money and influence. For example if there is country X who has zero influence internationally and is killing millions of people in its borders or even millions in country Y who itself has minimal international influence then the rest of humanity is mostly fine with it because it doesn’t affect their money.
Obviously Iran has a massive influence on oil and global trade so any issue there will get consistent global coverage. Similarly Israel and their greater Israel plan is destabilizing an entire region which similarly messes with global trade and commerce so that’s going to get a lot of attention.
In contrast to the above what’s happening in the Tigray region of Ethiopia generally doesn’t affect global commerce or threaten to destabilize a region that heavily affects global commerce.
Aka people don’t care about much unless it affects them personally generally speaking. All their virtue and moral signaling over one tragedy but not any other is kinda a farce.
If you yourself had any manners, you wouldn’t troll on an issue like that. Also, I didn’t call you names, I directly asked if you are Anti-Deutsch. You could just say “No, I’m not, that’s not my ideology. I’m just a Zionist, without the pretence of leftism”. If name-calling is that I call you out on the obvious bad faith troll behaviour, then idk, maybe stop playing victim, it doesn’t suite you.
In the comment I answered to, you started of with a deflection away from Israel, with classic whataboutism: “But there are other countries doing the same”. WhY dOeS nObOdY tAlK aBoUt ThIS oThEr StUfF.
Then you asked two questions:
So why are they so special? Why is that tragedy worth all our attention and the others don’t seem to be?
I answered both of these questions, directly. I gave you my take, why this might be different from other atrocities around the world. You ignored it entirely and spam-pasted your previous comment with a little amendment how “it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides” and immediately again, deflected to another issue, which again was simply whataboutism. So, it’s kinda weird that you are talking about manners, if you yourself aren’t even able to actually stay in the conversation, but ignore people’s engagement completely. Quite demeaning, don’t you think?
Now you slyly pretend to engage with what I said with “To answer your question, it’s not just western news that (…)”, but you don’t actually answer any question I put forward. What you do instead is deflect from the actual substance of what I commented and derail towards what might or might not be your honest take, but it’s not in any way shape or form in reference to what has been said.
I could engage with your takes, I would actually respect them as good faith commentary, if only you actually engaged with the substance of my messages. You don’t, you are a troll.
You are a bad faith actor and I call you out for it. Directly engage with the comment I made above, do it now. Do you agree with my reasoning, why it’s different? If you don’t agree, reply with reference to what has been said, explain why the points I made are, in your view, not a differentiating factor. But you don’t do any of that, you keep ignoring the topic and deflect, deflect, deflect. You are acting in bad faith. We are done, if you don’t engage with the answers I gave to your very own questions.
Dude you can’t complain about something you’re doing yourself. If you haven’t noticed there’s a bit of sarcasm on both sides of the fence here. So this is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
Officially I’m not mentally enslaved by or beholden to any nation, religion, political ideology or culture. I wish all minds everywhere in existence experience less needless and avoidable suffering, not just human minds on earth.
Also no there are other tragedies happening and I do believe people ignore them mainly because it doesn’t mess with their money and that’s about the ins and outs of it. Either that or it’s not connected to the abrahamic faiths and all the wonders that’s brought humanity. Seriously there’s like too many abrahamic death cults trying to end the world. Also there is a vague brown (or browner) people are less human thing going on.
You kinda started the conversation pretty rudely, I’m not sure why I should oblige such unbecoming behavior. You get better responses when you aren’t rude generally speaking.
Just fuck off. Nobody more disrespectful and rude then you minimize genocide in Gaza. Nobody want to see scums like you on the fediverse.
I don’t think just talking about what’s happening literally is minimizing anything. All. Of these atrocities should end immediately. If that view makes me scum to you then I have bad news for you buddy.
You was mad that there is too much posts about Israel making you a scum. Only zionists use your dumb taking point. Just fuck off , you can go back to reddit where there is plenty of other zionists
Mad? Not really. I’m sad there’s not enough coverage on other tragedies. Personally I would rather all of these tragedies end so I guess wanting the killings in Gaza to end and the killings elsewhere to end makes a dumb Zionist then I guess that’s how it is although I don’t think actual Zionist would agree with my views to free Palestine.
so you are not a Zionist?
I feel like you haven’t been reading anything I’ve been saying. Idk man the people on here sure like to think I am but I’m pretty sure actual Zionist would hate me even more.
To myself I am free of any national, religious, cultural, or political ideology beyond that I want to end needless and avoidable suffering for all minds anywhere in existence. That includes all humans and even nonhuman minds on earth as well as minds anywhere else in existence. So if by your definition that makes me a Zionist then so be it but I don’t think a Zionist would agree with the above definition. In short call me whatever you want, it won’t change the above statement for me.
I’m sure your hurt feelings are the issue here. I‘m so sorry, I may have been rude to you. How about now?
I’m sure that was an honest apology. Anyways, didn’t your mom or dad or whoever raised you teach you any manners? We can have a discussion without calling each other names, you know like rational and civil adults.
To answer your question, it’s not just western news that is shy of these other genocides, its global news and well global news is global. Personally I think it boils down to money and influence. For example if there is country X who has zero influence internationally and is killing millions of people in its borders or even millions in country Y who itself has minimal international influence then the rest of humanity is mostly fine with it because it doesn’t affect their money.
Obviously Iran has a massive influence on oil and global trade so any issue there will get consistent global coverage. Similarly Israel and their greater Israel plan is destabilizing an entire region which similarly messes with global trade and commerce so that’s going to get a lot of attention.
In contrast to the above what’s happening in the Tigray region of Ethiopia generally doesn’t affect global commerce or threaten to destabilize a region that heavily affects global commerce.
Aka people don’t care about much unless it affects them personally generally speaking. All their virtue and moral signaling over one tragedy but not any other is kinda a farce.
If you yourself had any manners, you wouldn’t troll on an issue like that. Also, I didn’t call you names, I directly asked if you are Anti-Deutsch. You could just say “No, I’m not, that’s not my ideology. I’m just a Zionist, without the pretence of leftism”. If name-calling is that I call you out on the obvious bad faith troll behaviour, then idk, maybe stop playing victim, it doesn’t suite you.
In the comment I answered to, you started of with a deflection away from Israel, with classic whataboutism: “But there are other countries doing the same”. WhY dOeS nObOdY tAlK aBoUt ThIS oThEr StUfF.
Then you asked two questions:
I answered both of these questions, directly. I gave you my take, why this might be different from other atrocities around the world. You ignored it entirely and spam-pasted your previous comment with a little amendment how “it’s interesting to watch the global outcry for kinda only one of these genocides” and immediately again, deflected to another issue, which again was simply whataboutism. So, it’s kinda weird that you are talking about manners, if you yourself aren’t even able to actually stay in the conversation, but ignore people’s engagement completely. Quite demeaning, don’t you think?
Now you slyly pretend to engage with what I said with “To answer your question, it’s not just western news that (…)”, but you don’t actually answer any question I put forward. What you do instead is deflect from the actual substance of what I commented and derail towards what might or might not be your honest take, but it’s not in any way shape or form in reference to what has been said.
I could engage with your takes, I would actually respect them as good faith commentary, if only you actually engaged with the substance of my messages. You don’t, you are a troll.
You are a bad faith actor and I call you out for it. Directly engage with the comment I made above, do it now. Do you agree with my reasoning, why it’s different? If you don’t agree, reply with reference to what has been said, explain why the points I made are, in your view, not a differentiating factor. But you don’t do any of that, you keep ignoring the topic and deflect, deflect, deflect. You are acting in bad faith. We are done, if you don’t engage with the answers I gave to your very own questions.
Dude you can’t complain about something you’re doing yourself. If you haven’t noticed there’s a bit of sarcasm on both sides of the fence here. So this is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
Officially I’m not mentally enslaved by or beholden to any nation, religion, political ideology or culture. I wish all minds everywhere in existence experience less needless and avoidable suffering, not just human minds on earth.
Also no there are other tragedies happening and I do believe people ignore them mainly because it doesn’t mess with their money and that’s about the ins and outs of it. Either that or it’s not connected to the abrahamic faiths and all the wonders that’s brought humanity. Seriously there’s like too many abrahamic death cults trying to end the world. Also there is a vague brown (or browner) people are less human thing going on.