• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    14 minutes ago

    maybe it’s my lack of geographical knowledge, but where in the USA is this objective exactly?

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    35 minutes ago

    NATO’s job is to protect member states from Russian aggression. Trump has zero concept of history.

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      Trump’s Pentagon insisted on a go-it-alone approach to Iran at the outset. This wasn’t NATO’s choice it was Hegseth’s choice.

      Even fucking Chimp-in-Chief Bush Jr had the decency to assemble the “Coalition of the Willing” in Iraq. Rubio couldn’t be bothered to get the fucking Turks and Saudis on board, and they’ve hated Iran since the Ottoman Empire fell.

      Absolutely bonkers to talk about this as some kind of NATO failure to comply when the treaty was never invoked to begin with. Doubly so, when you consider how many NATO bases are still ultimately being used by US forces to get hardware into position.

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    7 hours ago

    He’s been rejected by everybody he’s ever met. That’s probably why he’s a rapist and a predator.

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    7 hours ago

    Trump finally reaping what he sows. Or, to put it more succinctly for my contemporary peers…he found out!

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    12 hours ago

    NATO was created as a defensive measure to present a combined defence in the event of being attacked.

    It was NOT created to provide back up to a wannabe Napoleon with tiny dick syndrome because he decides to start a war on his own.

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        A valid point and frankly still a stain on the organisation that they failed to justify. History aside it does not alter the fact of why it was created and why it should not be aiding the Fanta Fuhrer now.

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    12 hours ago

    “hey, you, fuck you! also, I’ll take your shit. also, come help me pls! but also, fuck you.” - tronald dump

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    14 hours ago

    That was one labored sentence! I cannot be the only one that parsed it as: “Trump says he’s been rejected by NATO (while) most allies (are) to join mission …”

    Instead, it wants to say: “Trump says he’s been rejected by NATO and most allies (in his desire for them) to join mission …”

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    13 hours ago

    “Guys! GUYS! You really depend on the oil that flows through the Strait so come and help me open it!”

    “But your actions closed it in the first place.”

    “OMG I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU WON’T HELP! :`(”

    Fuck me, this is what international politics and diplomacy have become.

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      12 hours ago

      Also, most NATO countries don’t really depend that much on that oil. Most of it goes to Asia.

      It’s the various US allies in the gulf that are going to be feeling the pinch the most. If oil isn’t getting out, they won’t be getting paid. And they’re getting pelted by Iranian drones to boot.

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        Not just that, but Europe is able to pay the oil price, although Russia getting it is a problem. At the same time oil consumption is half of the USAs and falling due to BEVs and heat pumps. It is probably a lot cheaper then to go to war.

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        “don’t really depend that much on that oil”

        Then why tf do I have to pay 30cts/liter more for gasoline?

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          11 hours ago

          All sold at “market rates” no matter the source.

          Same reason I pay gas electricity prices, when most of it is made by wind turbines.

          This is our life on capitalism…

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          Okay, some people depend on that oil. I don’t, because I ride a bike.

          We should all have gotten out of our oil dependency a long time ago, but apparently politicians prefer being dependent on questionable regimes in unstable regions.

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            I don’t, because I ride a bike.

            What an unbelievably stupid thing to say. Do the fields where your food grows ride a bike as well? Did your bike ride a bike to the store you bought it at? Did the clothes on your back ride a bike to your wardrobe?

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              It might surprise you, but stuff I already have is unaffected by the recent increase in fuel costs.

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    14 hours ago

    But I thought that the “greatest military in the world” wouldn’t need help for a war that has “already been won”?

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      That’s not it. It’s the lack of enthusiasm that drags Donnie down, the feeling that he has to always be the one to come up with ideas to keep this relationship with NATO alive.

      Would it kill them to bomb one little school, leave some civilian corpses as a surprise around the (white) house or do those sweet little coups together in a foreign land, like they used to do?

      It’s exhausting, really

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    so the NATO that he trashes all the time, and wants the US to abandon, won’t help him in his entirely unnecessary War that he’s thrown his country into, purely in an attempt to divert attention from his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein… How surprising.

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      I don’t believe that, it’s so he can try to cancel the mid terms by being at war. He might have just done it bit earlier due to that.

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        that’s not a thing in Murican constitution… he can’t just cancel elections, which is why he is trying to stop women from voting

        The orange idiot saw that from Ukraine and figured the world runs on the same laws… he is just that stupid

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    NATO is a defensive alliance, not to be invoked when you get bribed by the zionists to start a war you cant finish. Our NATO allies owe us nothing in this situation but lawsuits for US/Israeli terrorism and destroying the oil markets.