Whatever his interaction is with American politics, I dont think you can blame everything Orban does on Americans. And would it surprise you to know that every fellow American I know hates and mistrusts their government? To be fair, all of the people I spend energy associating with are strongly progressive.
I dont think you can blame everything Orban does on Americans
Sure. He’s got a huge network of domestic supporters who are along for the ride.
Every fellow American I know hates and mistrusts their government? To be fair, all of the people I spend energy associating with are strongly progressive.
Will you distrust the government when it flips back to Dem control?
Obama currently has a 90% approval among liberals. It doesn’t seem like they’ve learned anything.
Will you distrust the government when it flips back to Dem control?
The dems who spend their entire existence kicking progressives in the face? those dems? I fucking hate them. I hate the republicans 2% more, but I still despise centrist dems and dont trust them as far as I could throw them. You just have to look at Joe Bidens history in congress to see what a weasel shit he always has been, and he is the patron saint of centrists.
As for Obama, I wanted so much more out of him. His folksy shtick worked for me for a long time, but now he seems like a retired salesman.
He came up through US anti-communist front groups and has turned his country out to Silicon Valley goons and evangelical reactionaries.
So had Putin, at least during the War on Terror era.
They’ve been peas in a pod under every Republican administration since Bush 41. At best, you could describe them as Rogue Assets, assuming you ignored how often they work to benefit American industry.
We’ve seen the American hand behind Orban since his days in the Alliance of Young Democrats (ironically enough, founded by Orban’s favorite whipping boy George Soros).
He’s an American proxy and always had been. If he’s been a wedge into the EU for decades, that’s by design.
The USA needed the Russia skrong narrative to fund defense, and Russia needs US based political power to secure their assets here. Allies of convenience but not friends. Orban advances these goals in Europe along the same lines for both countries.
Putins playing Trump and Orban, their interest don’t align all the time but often enough to make it hard to argue he’s not got a couple hands up is ass making him dance. Sorry for calling you Ivan.
He’s more bound up in American geopolitics. But then Americans keep smelling shit, then blaming foreigners for the load in their pants.
Damn get ratio’d Ivan.
Whatever his interaction is with American politics, I dont think you can blame everything Orban does on Americans. And would it surprise you to know that every fellow American I know hates and mistrusts their government? To be fair, all of the people I spend energy associating with are strongly progressive.
Sure. He’s got a huge network of domestic supporters who are along for the ride.
Will you distrust the government when it flips back to Dem control?
Obama currently has a 90% approval among liberals. It doesn’t seem like they’ve learned anything.
The dems who spend their entire existence kicking progressives in the face? those dems? I fucking hate them. I hate the republicans 2% more, but I still despise centrist dems and dont trust them as far as I could throw them. You just have to look at Joe Bidens history in congress to see what a weasel shit he always has been, and he is the patron saint of centrists.
As for Obama, I wanted so much more out of him. His folksy shtick worked for me for a long time, but now he seems like a retired salesman.
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Orban is a fucking FSB puppet and nothing else, no need to be dragging the US into this.
He came up through US anti-communist front groups and has turned his country out to Silicon Valley goons and evangelical reactionaries.
So had Putin, at least during the War on Terror era.
They’ve been peas in a pod under every Republican administration since Bush 41. At best, you could describe them as Rogue Assets, assuming you ignored how often they work to benefit American industry.
Ok this hit harder than the silly meme.
Ok now provide sources that proof he has more to do with the US than Russia in politics.
(while he fucks over the EU all of the time)
Trump, Silicon Valley, and Europe’s Far-right
Heritage Foundation, a prime mover in American domestic politics: Why the U.S. Must Befriend Hungary’s Populist Leader
Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban at a Joint Press Availability
We’ve seen the American hand behind Orban since his days in the Alliance of Young Democrats (ironically enough, founded by Orban’s favorite whipping boy George Soros).
He’s an American proxy and always had been. If he’s been a wedge into the EU for decades, that’s by design.
The USA needed the Russia skrong narrative to fund defense, and Russia needs US based political power to secure their assets here. Allies of convenience but not friends. Orban advances these goals in Europe along the same lines for both countries.
Putins playing Trump and Orban, their interest don’t align all the time but often enough to make it hard to argue he’s not got a couple hands up is ass making him dance. Sorry for calling you Ivan.