• Maeve@kbin.earth
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        This is who we always were. Real time media for events out of sight and earshot is relatively new. And that’s partly why they want to heavily censor and spy on us.

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          Yes, Putin probably enjoys this, but this is not trump alone. He has the support of the whole republican party, or at least 95% of it.

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            11 hours ago

            He has support of the US. They voted for him and for his ‘opposition’ of cowards that can do nothing but watch cry crocodile tears.

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            I agree it’s not but like AIPAC I don’t think it’s a stretch that the broader cartel that is the GOP realizes their reelection hinges on the bilateral relationship with Russia. They’ve been in cahoots for at least 2 decades or more.

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          Well don’t think he’s that happy since his supply of drones most likely has dried up

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            If I understand right, ruzzia has long since started to develop and innovate domestically upon the design of Shaheds, and I don’t think they were receiving that many relative to domestic production, though I agree it’s a thorn in Putin’s side presumably.

            Though I have some other theories as to the bigger game being played here but just theories and speculation.

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              make sense why the right wing talking heads hes paying isnt spreading anti-iran propaganda, he mostly certain is trying to formulate a way to discredit the war, but hasnt yet.

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      Lot of gymnastics here. This is pretty simple: do not move your unarmed warship through international waters so you can arm it and join an active conflict while your aggressor is literally right next to you.

      The Iranian admiral who ordered this ship to sail is an idiot and this ship was fair game.

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        Gymnastics my arse. It was an attack on an unarmed ship.

        During a war these grubs can’t justify. Maggots they are.

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          An unarmed what? What kind of ship was it? Headed to where? To be armed to with what? To do what?

          The war is not justifiable. But given the context that frigate was done the moment it sailed.

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            An unarmed what

            Ship, with human lives on it

            What kind…

            Unarmed. Vulnerable.

            Headed to where

            Home port which still doesn’t justify sinking an unarmed ship

            To be armed…

            To do what

            Then it might be fair game if this war was legitimate but it isn’t. It was only done the moment it sailed because Americans are war criminals and the bad guys.

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              I understand this isn’t necessarily hinged on just the legality but it is fair game under the laws of warfare even if the war is an illegal one.

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      There is no carpet bombing of Tehran. This person is thus not a reputable source and you need to start doubting the rest of the claims until you find a better source.

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        Well Russia didn’t do it because they don’t have the “fuck you” power that the US has. Russia sucks and is a huge danger, but this is absolutely not the time to whataboutism about them. I really hope you’re being ironic, because otherwise it’s just providing cover for mass murder.

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          I mean… there can be two murderous ruthless sadistic powers on earth. Three even! I’ll let you choose the third.

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                China is bad, but it’s it worse than the these to 3. I doubt it.

                The west considers it worst since

                1. It’s not an European or white nation, which is technologically advanced.
                2. It’s daring to reject European interference.
                3. It is communist.
                4. It is trying to be the next hegemony.

                It is bad because

                1. It is a dictatorship
                2. There are a lot of human rights abuse happening in is own country.
                3. It does try to be the next USSR.
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                  I was thinking about how it treat minorities and their threats to Taiwan and how that would impact the global balance and economy.

                  I don’t care about their race, claimed economic system or government.

                  But Israel is a genocidal regime, so as of 2026 definitely worse. China has potential to do more damage, tho.

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            And whataboutisms do not help either case. They just muddy the water and derail the conversation. If you want to talk about Russia or China, the US fighting this awful war only helps other competing empires. Russia is more likely to carve further into Europe, China is more guaranteed to take Taiwan, and other countries will race towards nuclear deterrents even harder then they were. Many more people are dead and will die because of this path America has driven us into. It is horrific and America needs to be stopped to make everyone safer.

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              It’s not whataboutism, it’s condemning both and NOT letting the existence of other justify the actions of one.

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                That’s not the way it comes across. It was just as annoying when people did the “what about American imperialism!” when Russia first invaded Ukraine. Timing matters

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        “russia would do” - when you say that to yourself remember that phrase is propaganda. it’s literally some shit the USA did do. Your “IDK” is cognitive dissonance.

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            Russia was never relevant. The USSR failed.

            It was empire

            Then feudalism

            Then the advent of the ruling of the mercantile class.

            Next will be rule by the people.

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            Lol. We aren’t the new Russia. We’re just continuing to be the same war crime committing monsters we’ve been for centuries.