• TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      17 hours ago

      Well Russia didn’t do it because they don’t have the “fuck you” power that the US has. Russia sucks and is a huge danger, but this is absolutely not the time to whataboutism about them. I really hope you’re being ironic, because otherwise it’s just providing cover for mass murder.

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        16 hours ago

        I mean… there can be two murderous ruthless sadistic powers on earth. Three even! I’ll let you choose the third.

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              5 hours ago

              China is bad, but it’s it worse than the these to 3. I doubt it.

              The west considers it worst since

              1. It’s not an European or white nation, which is technologically advanced.
              2. It’s daring to reject European interference.
              3. It is communist.
              4. It is trying to be the next hegemony.

              It is bad because

              1. It is a dictatorship
              2. There are a lot of human rights abuse happening in is own country.
              3. It does try to be the next USSR.
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                I was thinking about how it treat minorities and their threats to Taiwan and how that would impact the global balance and economy.

                I don’t care about their race, claimed economic system or government.

                But Israel is a genocidal regime, so as of 2026 definitely worse. China has potential to do more damage, tho.

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          12 hours ago

          And whataboutisms do not help either case. They just muddy the water and derail the conversation. If you want to talk about Russia or China, the US fighting this awful war only helps other competing empires. Russia is more likely to carve further into Europe, China is more guaranteed to take Taiwan, and other countries will race towards nuclear deterrents even harder then they were. Many more people are dead and will die because of this path America has driven us into. It is horrific and America needs to be stopped to make everyone safer.

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            5 hours ago

            It’s not whataboutism, it’s condemning both and NOT letting the existence of other justify the actions of one.

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              4 hours ago

              That’s not the way it comes across. It was just as annoying when people did the “what about American imperialism!” when Russia first invaded Ukraine. Timing matters

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      16 hours ago

      “russia would do” - when you say that to yourself remember that phrase is propaganda. it’s literally some shit the USA did do. Your “IDK” is cognitive dissonance.

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          6 hours ago

          Russia was never relevant. The USSR failed.

          It was empire

          Then feudalism

          Then the advent of the ruling of the mercantile class.

          Next will be rule by the people.

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          Lol. We aren’t the new Russia. We’re just continuing to be the same war crime committing monsters we’ve been for centuries.