The attackers’ ability to spare newly established adjacent facilities (such as the Martyr Absalan clinic) and their glaring failure to avoid an elementary school operating at full capacity and packed with 170 girls leaves us with two scenarios, both unequivocally condemnatory: Either US and Israeli forces relied, in striking the vicinity of the Asif Brigade, on a very old, outdated intelligence target bank (dating to before 2013), which would constitute grave negligence and reckless disregard for civilian lives; or the strike was carried out deliberately and with prior knowledge to inflict maximum societal shock and undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment.
Schrodinger’s US intel
inflict maximum societal shock and undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment.
It’s the opposite motive. Israel wants a long war, and Iranians rallying around the flag over how despicable this is. Israel has attacked before to derail nuclear negotiations with Iran. Purpose of the war is purely to permanently weaken and destabilize Iran so that its opinion of Israel never matters again. It’s not about forcing women and gays into miniskirts and open smoking liberalism, and never will be. Only pure dysfunctional chaos. Whether or not the US is the one who bombed would only show their servitude to Israel’s agenda.
It makes sense that it was deliberate. Israel doesn’t want regime change, they want a failed state in Iran. And the rally-round-the-flag effect the bombing and martyrdom of 165 school girls, and the subsequent longer war it will cause, gives them just that
Of course it was deliberate: Israel wouldn’t have been involved unless it was able to bomb children.
Given what I have read, I agree with Al Jazeera’s evaluation. Either highly outdated info and no effort to update it (colorful murals on exterior walls, regular traffic by parents --> chances of updating the designation of the object)…
…or just people who give zero damns, or even worse, some form of AI generating target lists which people blindly rubberstamp, Israeli style.
Or whatever random Israeli asset gave a suggestion, and then they rubberstamped it.
Making shit up is a popular tactic to not get your blackmail file released or get paid or whatever.
They hate education, they hate children, they hate women. If it weren’t deliberate on their part, it would be serendipity.
How would this attack “undermine popular support for Iran’s military establishment”?
I think one of the reasons for this was to stir up protests here in the U.S., so they have an excuse to take over the mid-term elections, and perhaps start marshal law.
marshal law.
Lol this used to be so common in Pakistan, that the natural dialect and dictation caused people to pronounce it as one word: Marshalah
A common belief amongst some people, right or wrong, is that if you hurt someone badly enough they’ll do what you want because that path becomes less painful.
Those people believe that sending the message “war with the US means all your children die” will result in people furiously demanding that their military stop fighting to prevent the killing.It’s quite literally the abuser mindset but applied to nations. “I wouldn’t have to hurt you if you had just done what I said”.
This fits with who’s in power.And to finish the point, it failed in ww2 strategic civilian bombing and itll fail here.
It just doesnt work. At least the uk in ww2 didnt have dresden in history books to know better.
It did work in Japan though. But better don’t tell them how far they’ll have to go for it to have effect.
It actually didn’t. The carpet bombing and flattening of cities didn’t make the population want to give up or turn on the military.
The first nuclear weapon didn’t either.
The second made the emperor inclined to surrender, when paired with a declaration of war by the Soviet Union.The civilian population never posed a significant threat to the stability of the military or imperial rule.
People aren’t generally idiots, and will lean towards supporting the people fighting the people who are hurting them. You may not like them, and you may want them to do something else, but you’re unlikely to trust the party that is currently trying to kill you.
“Take off your armor and we’ll stop shooting” just isn’t a compelling argument.
Yeah, but the US and Israeli militaries in specific are well aware of how bad optics make a military campaign harder. They’re not those people.
You say that, but also… They specifically said this wasn’t going to be a “politically correct war” with “rules of engagement”.
This is the generational turning point America has waited for since 1979 and since the rudderless wars of hubris
No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy building exercise, no politically correct wars. We fight to win
Remember that while sensible people know optics matter, there are people who think the problem with Vietnam was that we were too soft on them, and too soft on domestic political dissident.
Those are the people currently in power. They are not competent military thinkers. They view strength the same way the people who were blindsided by our loss in Vietnam viewed it. We can’t lose because we have more weapons. If the enemy is still fighting it’s because we haven’t bombed hard enough. Anyone who wants to hold back is weak.I mean, it also says there that they didn’t start the war. Hagseth is a politician saying things he knows are untrue for domestic political consumption.
It’s possible he believes some of this stuff in private, and Trump earnestly believes all kinds of crazy stuff. The generals and officers that pick targets and run strikes are still the same ones from Afghanistan, though.
Sure. Unless they were fired for being “woke” and replaced by people who think bombing Iran will help usher in Armageddon and the second coming of Christ.
What has he done to make you think he deserves the benefit of the doubt? What in this administration makes you remain confident that somewhere deep down there’s a responsible adult who’ll calm things down? They bragged about letting Elon musk fire all those people.
Why do you think the people who ran Afghanistan wouldn’t bomb a school? They bombed weddings. Hospitals. Shot children.
It wouldn’t, and the powers attacking here know that. It’s something else.
Yeah, killing civilians only makes people fight harder, and the US knows this. If it was them responsible, it was a screw up.
What you’re missing is that they want the people to fight them so they have an excuse to attack them more. And these excuses work retroactively too. They bomb, wait for a retaliation, then they say “see, we were right to bomb them,” followed by an even bigger attack. Repeat till there’s nothing left to bomb.
Well we all know that the terrorist state of Israel hates middle eastern kids and US is kind of in a moronic state right now. So 2+2=4
Is this where we learn some Iranian official that insulted Trump had their daughter at that school?
Yep but given the elites lining up behind this from the news cheering it to Britain, Germany, NATO,Canada and France are aligning with the US blatantly and supporting this with base sharing rhetorical support.
Our governments, at least Canada and UK are very zionist. They are supporting zionism, don’t get that mixed up with the perfect excuse that was handed to them.
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
