Nah. The ROG Ally X they already make with windows 11 and 1 TB is $800+tax. The ROG Ally that came before it was $700 and currently sells for like $400 or so.

The 2TB Rog Ally X is about $1k + tax. I honestly doubt they can get people to pay more than that for a handheld, regardless of the Z2 chip. They are having trouble selling the ones they currently make. Add to this that Lenovo just launched the steam os variant of their newest handheld and it’s significantly cheaper.

I have Bazzite but for handhelds and I knew they did have some issues with input lag but couldn’t remember the specifics. Glad I could help and that you found a solution that works.

https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/input-lag-while-gaming/5289

Someone else had a similar problem and their fix may help.

I’m not switching over from Bazzite. For my device the Bazzite support is still better at the moment from what I have read. But I am glad that Steam OS is coming to other handheld devices.

For what it’s worth I have a ROG Ally X with both Windows 11 Pro and Bazzite both installed. It came with Windows 11 Home but I upgraded windows to get more access to things like Group Policy Editor specifically so I could turn off pretty much everything MS put on it that I didn’t want. Local Account. No telemetry. No ads. No tacking. No copilot or AI. The only handheld that comes with Steam OS right now is the steam deck and the Legion Go S. All the others come with Windows.

For the purposes of using steam, windows isn’t inferior exactly but I don’t like it as much. Touchscreen support for Windows 11 (os-wise) is pretty poor in comparison to previous Windows distros like 10. You can limit but not completely prevent other processes from running in the background in windows. But once you launch steam big picture mode it’s basically the same. There’s very few functional differences (hardware things mostly that are handled by other apps like RGB lighting or fan curve and TPM and battery charge limits).

How windows performs is ultimately dependent on the hardware and that’s a lot of the reason that I can’t speak for how windows would perform on a lower specced device. I doubt windows on a steam deck would perform the same as steam os on a steam deck.

I opted for the ROG Ally X. A couple of things swayed me. My ability to hold it in store and the tech specs for future proofing were both reasons. But I never planned for this device to be a Windows only handheld. I specifically bought it for the few games I own that can’t run Linux and I run everything else in Bazzite. If it had come with Steam OS I likely still would have bought it and done a dual boot. I don’t think it’s fair to assume that people are buying non-steam handhelds just because they don’t want to deal with Linux. They likely have no idea what Linux has to offer and are going with what they can buy in store.

Yeah. I wasn’t really sure if this was the answer or not, just that I had seen a potential conversation asking similar questions or along the same lines, and others seemed to have had a take on this.

https://lemmy.world/comment/16545391

Yes. It’s still needed. Mostly because not everyone using Linux is using a controller or other peripheral input device that just works natively (look at non-steam os handhelds and Bazzite for instance). On smaller screened devices, menus and keyboard specific options can be problematic regardless of other compatibility features.

I have Bazzite on my home entertainment handheld. I use it on the big screen with my TV using a dock and I have the logi bolt setup with a keyboard and mouse and it works flawlessly. But the logi app doesn’t work with Bazzite as far as I’m aware.

All the controllers I have work without issue, so long as you have handheld daemon setup. So that’s pretty easy.

At the end of the tax year you generally receive tax documentation forms (a W2 or 1099 etc). These tax forms detail your taxable income and possibly any tax credits or exemptions you might be eligible for.

You fill out I9 forms detailing your status (single married etc) and what dependants you have when you start at your place of work and then update those forms as that status changes over time. This information is used by your employer to withhold taxes on your earnings from your pay checks and send that money along to the federal and state governments as necessary.

When you receive your end of year tax forms you enter that tax information into a tax preparation service or paper form, sign it and send it off with what you owe in check form to the IRS, unless you have made accurate tax withholding in which case you have already paid. If you are owed money by the government for overpayment of taxes they will then mail you a check or direct deposit the amount owed to you into an account of your choosing.

There are exceptions if you own a business or have other forms of income for the tax year which you may have to submit a more detailed filing to the IRS with documentation that can absolutely include receipts. But for the most part you use the tax forms you receive to submit your taxable income calculations to the federal or state government and pay or get paid accordingly depending on if you owe them money, or if you are owed money by them for overpayment.

I actually like e-ink for some apps. Unfortunately, on my device, dark mode UI doesn’t do as good a job as I would like (serious ghosting is a problem even when setting the auto refresh to a much higher rate). I do miss qwerty keyboards but I think I would rather have a device like this with a fold out/slide out keyboard (I would buy a sidekick with android and a larger screen tomorrow if they offered it, and if they offered it with e-ink, I’d still seriously consider it with some reservations).

I’ve seen devices that have both an e-ink display and an OLED display and I like the idea but the design is often just not what I’m looking for.

But writing and note apps, RSS apps and note taking apps are really really good on e-ink. I have even used Lemmy (boost) on an e-ink device and it’s not the greatest experience but I do like it quite a lot. Music and podcasts work so long as you’re not using the animations in those apps. And I really like using the web browser, but mostly I think that’s down to the way I browse the web.

My main problem is that niche devices like this don’t have the same ROM support and configurability that more well known phone brands and models have.

It’s the same way on the original Legion Go from Lenovo.

Well, while I love Bazzite, I wonder if steam os will run the built in controller on my rog ally x as a signal piece of hardware rather than 5 controllers in a trench coat. That and the fingerprint reader possibly getting a driver. But other than that I haven’t had any problems with Bazzite that I can think of off the top of my head.

I wonder if this will fix some of the built in controller issues (where the ROG Ally/x built in controls are considered 5-6 different controllers).

The problem is they are doing so in a way that is directly at odds with getting people to adopt Linux. A previous commenter on this thread already explained that this video picks “hard mode” installation with very little support after mentioning other distros that are much better suited, gives basically no sensical reason why, and basically concludes that they aren’t happy with the result. How does that help with adoption?

I paid $600 for a rog ally x on black Friday and they frequently enough go on sale that you absolutely aren’t paying $1100 for it. I also use Bazzite pretty much for everything on it (I have a windows partition but there’s on 4 games in my steam library that I didn’t manage to get working on steam OS). If you consider its use case to be more than just handheld gaming (media center docking etc), it quickly shows its versatility and use case.

I get exceptional battery life, great graphics with little to no tweaking, and while it’s not perfect I wouldn’t say the steam deck itself is perfect either.

I wish it had a differently styled D-pad. I don’t necessarily like the asymmetrical sticks (although the thumb sticks on it are some of the best I have ever used on a handheld of any kind). Once it’s got support from Valve out in the wild I’m pretty sure the rare input problem I have will go away altogether.

I really don’t like this article (it’s not very well put together and doesn’t talk about the Ally X in a way that’s fair to how good the steam deck is for its price point.

But I do really like the Ally X despite ASUS and their BS. Which I do think is something that should be mentioned more often here.

It counts Bazzite as SteamOS.

Bazzite basically is steam OS for the most part. You get generally the same experience. The only reason there is a Bazzite at all is because steam OS itself has t come to any other handhelds besides the steam deck.

They’re likely to get the same kind of benchmarks from games using steam OS or Bazzite on the same hardware.

They could just don’t.