most of the people you’re talking about only support russia critically, as in support their anti-imperialist efforts.
i personally appreciate russia’s aid of iran against the united states and israel, alongside their support for cuba in this inhumane blockade by the united states and their fight against the ISIS in the sahel. that’s basically all i can appreciate them for. a lot of what they do is messed up
some people are of the opinion that the russian war on ukraine is an anti-imperialist act as ukraine was joining nato, but i disagree with this out of principle as i’m against all aggressive wars. i can see where they’re coming from, but i disagree with it.
a lot of people have this misconception that these claimed “tankies” are russia fans in everything they do, but in reality, their support for russia is quite limited. i recommend giving these people a good listen to get immersed in what they really believe in and clear your misconceptions
You are aware Ukraine only exists as a sovereign country because of the USSR right? Ukraine was never an independent nation before the USSR. The USSR gave many of the peoples and nations of the old Russian empire their own republics. It was a big part of the Soviet project. They had a congress that was democratically elected, but their version of a “senate” was actually a “nation and people’s” congress, where 2 representatives of each nation, ethnicity or people would gather and have the power to veto laws etc. like a senate does.
The Ukrainian People’s Republic (UPR)[d][e] was a short-lived state in Eastern Europe. Prior to its proclamation, the Central Council of Ukraine was elected in March 1917 as a result of the February Revolution, and in June declared Ukrainian autonomy within Russia, which was later recognized by the Russian Provisional Government. Following the October Revolution, the Central Council of Ukraine denounced the Bolshevik seizure of power and proclaimed the establishment of the Ukrainian People’s Republic in the approximate territory Russian governorates of Kiev, Volhynia, Kharkov, Kherson, Yekaterinoslav, Poltava, Chernigov and Podolia. The republic formally declared its independence from Russia on 22 January 1918.
A lot of stuff happened that year.
The October Revolution came after the February one.
I’m in an instance that is federated with pretty much everything. I interact with Hexbear and .ml people fairly frequently. Sure, some hold a reasonable view where what Russia is doing is bad. Many enthusiastically support Russia though.
I’ve listened to them, and try to enter discussions in good faith with an open mind. They will frequently say things like saying Russia is leftist, and appealing to the USSR, while not being critical of Russia drafting the people to die in an imperialist invasion of another nation. There is nothing leftist or anti-imperialist about it. They are, at best, anti-western. That’s all. If you’re anti-imperialist, you can’t support Russia’s continual invasion of other countries, and ethnic cleansing.
most of the people you’re talking about only support russia critically, as in support their anti-imperialist efforts.
i personally appreciate russia’s aid of iran against the united states and israel, alongside their support for cuba in this inhumane blockade by the united states and their fight against the ISIS in the sahel. that’s basically all i can appreciate them for. a lot of what they do is messed up
some people are of the opinion that the russian war on ukraine is an anti-imperialist act as ukraine was joining nato, but i disagree with this out of principle as i’m against all aggressive wars. i can see where they’re coming from, but i disagree with it.
a lot of people have this misconception that these claimed “tankies” are russia fans in everything they do, but in reality, their support for russia is quite limited. i recommend giving these people a good listen to get immersed in what they really believe in and clear your misconceptions
Ukrainians would rather not be ruled by the Kremlin, be it Soviet or Russian nationalist.
As you know, Russia’s invasion made/makes NATO and EU look better to other countries besides Ukraine.
You are aware Ukraine only exists as a sovereign country because of the USSR right? Ukraine was never an independent nation before the USSR. The USSR gave many of the peoples and nations of the old Russian empire their own republics. It was a big part of the Soviet project. They had a congress that was democratically elected, but their version of a “senate” was actually a “nation and people’s” congress, where 2 representatives of each nation, ethnicity or people would gather and have the power to veto laws etc. like a senate does.
FWIW,
wp:Ukrainian People’s Republic
A lot of stuff happened that year.
The October Revolution came after the February one.
I’m in an instance that is federated with pretty much everything. I interact with Hexbear and .ml people fairly frequently. Sure, some hold a reasonable view where what Russia is doing is bad. Many enthusiastically support Russia though.
I’ve listened to them, and try to enter discussions in good faith with an open mind. They will frequently say things like saying Russia is leftist, and appealing to the USSR, while not being critical of Russia drafting the people to die in an imperialist invasion of another nation. There is nothing leftist or anti-imperialist about it. They are, at best, anti-western. That’s all. If you’re anti-imperialist, you can’t support Russia’s continual invasion of other countries, and ethnic cleansing.