The ongoing peace talks in Switzerland between American and Iranian officials got off Sunday to a rocky start, according to one Emirati political analyst who went on to describe the spectacle as nothing short of “humiliation” for Vice President JD Vance, who’s leading the U.S. delegation.“This was h...
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“LOLOL we made the US delegates wait and didnt shake hands, they so weak.”
Stupid Shits.
Well, it’s about perception isn’t it… America (Trump) is very sensitive about perception.
While this regime is huge on optics, this shit has gone on for millennia. I remember reading that Obama was pissed his handlers kept telling him to wait for the repubs to call him and not for him to call them as it would show weakness or some BS. He was like idgaf we need to start negotiations! The handlers just told him that’s how DC politics worked and it would affect negotiations.
It’s also why trump used to jerk ppl in when he shook hands to “throw them off guard” and make him look stronger and more dominant. His dying ass doesn’t do it anymore cause he can barely stand or walk anywhere for more than 10 minutes. If he tried it now, the other person would just pull him and he’d fall.
I mean he is old as shit but Trudeau made him look like a twit all the way back in his first term with that stupid handshake.
The world should focus way more on like, dunno, science, facts and shit like dat, instead of stupid powergames.
Yes, I agree. They should. But they aren’t.
It’s a fact the administration sees value in those power games.
But they are idiots. A small part of me is happy any time they aren’t, but this is really just pointless signalling by morons, for morons, about morons.
Electing politicians and expecting them not to play power games seems optimistic.
Especially from idiots that think those power games are cool and what being in power is all about.
I reckon such behavior is unavoidable the moment one sets foot on the lowest rung of any hierarchy.
BlueMAGA energy.
Israel is massacring hundreds of people a day across Lebanon, while the liberal media is fully fixated on whether JD Vance had to listen to On Hold music for a minute in Switzerland.
No coverage of why these negotiations are delayed or what the stakes are. It’s all just optics.
Which is ‘the liberal media’ again?
The dirty secret that nobody wants to tell you is… in the West it’s liberals all the way down.
Some are just more scratched than others.
I think you’re confusing the Anglo-Saxon countries and their Press with “the West”.
Outside places like the US, UK and Canada the whole “lets talk about Identity Politics instead of Wealth Inequality” “liberal” propaganda technique to disguise their authoritarian pro-Oligarch ways didn’t really took hold anywhere as much.
Granted, the rest of Europe is sliding towards the same increasing use of the tools of autoritarianism (most notably civil society surveillance), but that’s not led by “liberals”, that’s led by the traditional Right which at the moment is in power in most of Europe, was a large majority in power when the current EU Commission was chosen and is currently a majority in the EU Parliament.
In most of Europe “Liberal” techniques such as their performative “fight for equality” that very explicity excludes talk of Wealth Inequality are only common for fringe (supposedly) leftwing parties.
Even though - in my experience - the posh deceit discourse techniques have migrated from the US and UK towards other European countries, even the mainstream old center-left parties (which are now Neoliberal and well to the right of center) haven’t adopted the heavy identitarian discourse you see in their supposed equivalents in the US and UK.
Mind you, the mainstream “center”-“left” parties in most of Europe are sold out and as rotten as they come and mainly represent the rich, they’re just not playing the “liberal” theatrics that you see in the Anglo-Saxon sphere and do still once in a while do things which are actually for the many rather than for the few.
I gotta disagree. This technique is baked into the entire Western political landscape. It’s particularly glaring in France and Germany, where neo-nazi police get to march around pushing the faces of poor immigrants, students, and socialist activists into the dirt in the name of “fighting antisemitism”. But it shows up throughout Latin America, the Philippines, and even West Africa.
State media sponsored tribalization, accusations of foreign infiltration of the opposition parties, and mass arrests of economic dissidents on ostensibly liberal “race neutral” grounds are common strategies globally, and for good reason. Even Russia plays this game when it suits them, with “De-Nazification” as a code word for busting the heads of any United Russia opposition group.
I mean, you have straight-up breakaway regions in Spain, Italy, Greece, and - famously - Ukraine. Hell, nobody swings the identitarian cudgel harder than the liberal Zionists of Israel. Identity politics allows you to pretend at liberal politics while enabling a fascist state, by insisting the fascism is a bullwark against the opposition party’s Bigger Scarier Fascism. So you get guys like Olaf Schultz and Emanual Macron introducing whole new levels of state surveillance, crack downs on immigration, and gutting of educational institutions under the pastiche of some liberal cause (typically LGBTQ or philosemitism). And if you run over a bunch of queer folks and left-jews along the way? All the better.
Outside Europe, you often see the Drug War and violence against indigenous people spun as some kind of beneficent social welfare response or “tough love” effort to reduce poverty. But these guys love to code their behaviors in liberal terms, suggest there’s some kind of White Man’s Burden to step
onin and “help”, and be greeted as liberators when you do.Those people doing all that you talk about are openly Rightwing parties, not “liberals” and they barelly use elements of “liberal” discourse.
The closest to it is the CDU/CSU in Germany and that’s pretty much only when it comes to anything Jewish - in that they push discriminatory treatment along Racial lines (in other words, Racial Discrimination) but only in favour of members of the Jewish Ethnicity and even there only for the Zionists (Jewish groups against the Zionist Genocide too are discriminated against) - not for the rest, and that’s the entire political landscape in Germany except Die Linke (and even then just part of Die Linke not all of it), not just the CDU/CSU. As far as I can tell the SPD aren’t really preaching the “liberal” credo beyond justifying differentiated treatment for the entire Jewish ethnicity using the “liberal” made up concept of Racial Victimhood (which would require some kind of shared Racial Hive Mind to be true, so is actually Racist as fuck).
The point I was making wasn’t that the West isn’t rife with Racism, it’s that the “moderate”/mainstream Left parties packaging reductive identitarian views of human beings and selling as “positive” some forms of Discrimination along those lines (not just the Racist lines, but all kinds of “identities”) isn’t anywhere as common in the rest of the West as it is in Anglo-Saxon countries. You see this even more clearly with other typical “liberal” identities other than Race, where even the Right in most of the West doesn’t really care either way - it’s places like the US and UK which rage about things like transsexuality, not places like Germany or France.
Absolutelly, the “moderate” Right in the West is rabidly Racist (hence their unwavering support for the White Supremacist State of Israel during a Genocide), but the “moderate”/mainstream “Left”-of-center parties aren’t usually “liberal” like in the UK, US and Canada.
Sadly at the moment the Right is in power in most of Europe, hence all the anti-immigration rethoric and support for Israel. A notable exception is Spain.
The German Greens and the Renaissance party are center-left and center (relatively speaking for their respective countries). They are explicitly liberal. The same can be said of the the various Latin American and and East Asian parties. Very regularly right in the center of their national overton windows and openly in favor of collaborating with neighboring liberal governments on their policies.
The ethnic lines vary. But the general disdain for immigrants, foreign religions, and foreign languages persist.