Like that infamous “ET” torrent in 1982 where it involved a “pirate” sneaking a huge JVC camcorder (with a VHS reel) recording the entire movie in theaters, given this was before DVD’s existed (don’t even ask about pirate bay, those weren’t available yet). The same applies to “torrented” music, one would have a spare tape cassette recording the song played via the radio, that’s how they torrented content back then if they can’t afford an official copy.
Only millennials or Gen X who were kids back then would’ve encountered or witnessed VHS or Cassette “torrents” from either friends or family and often or not, piracy in the pre internet days was rife even before torrent sites were a thing. There are VHS “torrents” of TV shows or series (placing a camcorder which faces the TV screen with a spare reel recording the entire show (ads included), then used to fast forward upon replay.
Late '80s. We would coordinate who would buy which cassette album and then go to the person’s house with the best “dub” deck and make copies. There was 2x and maybe even 4x copy speed but the quality would suffer. Usually good enough for our shitty car stereos though. 90 minute tapes could normally get an album on each side. IIRC the high quality blanks were about $1.50 each if you bought a 10 pack. $8 for a tape of a regular band or something older like Led Zeppelin, $12 for a brand new hit album.
Making mix tapes for your crush was HUGE at the time. Hey, if I can’t write poetry at least I can make her a cassette of love songs, right?
My experience is more late 80s, early 90s as a kid/teen. We recorded tons of stuff on VHS from cable TV and shared with friends and it was extremely common. It’s similar to how people use DVRs only you end up with a more portable copy if you want to share it. DVRs took away that sharing capability on purpose to increase cable and streaming revenue. Sure VHS was lower quality, but at that time cable wasn’t great either and HD TV’s and content weren’t common. Cams from movie theaters just wasn’t realistic and theater was still about the experience way more than it is now with everything just extra loud and flashy if you go to one.
I also copied stuff on cassette to share or to make it more portable since I had a cassette walkman. Sometimes that was from radio, but that was harder since you didn’t have a guide to what was coming up. Either you had to sit there and hope a song played that you wanted and then rewind if it wasn’t one. Or you had to copy from one cassette to another and further lose quality with analog copying. More common was making mix tapes either from original purchase cassettes or CDs once I had a CD player. Then BMG and copycats came along and everyone cheated the free trials to get a ton of free music before torrenting came along later.
Back then you wouldn’t necessarily sneak anything in, you’d bribe the projectionist (cash, ass, or grass) to set up in the booth and line-in the audio feed with a splitter. Then you’d sell it to the guy at the flea market who would make copies and sell for the low.
Psst, torrenting was invented in 2001. Back in the old days of which you speak it was entirely sneakernet (sometimes you’d rent the mail’s sneakers).
“Torrents” doesn’t mean “piracy,” it means the bittorrent p2p protocol specifically. If you download something today off Usenet it’s not torrenting.
Gen X here. When I was a kid, I knew a couple who had two bookshelves full of copied VHS tapes. They had a double decker and would rent and copy.
Blank tapes weren’t free, so they still had spent a few hundred dollars or more on their collection.
Of course I know them. It was me.
I had a stereo with the double vcr setup. I’d rent movies and copy my favorites.
My cousin recorded roughly 8h of The Three Stooges using a VCR.
Yes. Is it too late to report it?
Fun story: I was in my teens and my aunts came to visit from abroad. They had gone to the local video store and asked the clerk to give them something for their nephews. The clerk asked a few questions about my brothers and me, and told my aunts to come back the next day.
They came to visit and proudly handed us the video tape. We put it into the machine and it played and incredibly horribly terrible sci-fi. It was so B-movie quality, the laser rays zapped off in a totally different direction than the guns were pointing.
Aunts leave a few days later, disappointed that the movie was so bad. A week later, my mother says, the tape was bidirectional (Video 2000, the German standard of the time), we should see if there was something on the other side. We put it back in and, lo and behold, there was a movie.
It started odd. A mansion, a lady entering an expensive car. She hands her little Maltese on a leash to the butler and drives off. As soon as she’s gone, the butler kicks the dog into the giant fountain in front of the mansion and goes inside. There, he and the maids get naked and into bed.
At this point, even 15-year-old me knows what’s going on, and the entire family starts staring at my mother, who started the whole thing. She was intently looking at the screen, saying things like, “Oh, it must be so relaxing when your boss is gone and you can just rest in bed!” or “Well, staff in this mansion, they are really friendly with each other!”
Then there was silence. Then she said, “Turn off this filth!”
And we never spoke of that Sunday afternoon again.
I remember we used to rent from the video store and record to Betamax like the old tape to tape days.
Wowza. “Torrent” being synonymous with “warez” was not on my 2026 bingo card.
Ddit: maybe just “copy” was the word it was replacing? Unexpected either way IMO.
I dunno, I think this is just an OP thing?
To me, something has to be shared over a computer network using the bittorrent protocol to be ‘torrented’.
You’d never say sharing something with Napster or limewire was ‘torrenting’.
Thank you I was actually so confused lmao I’m like, are they distributing this ET reel in pieces?
Naw dude, we walked down the street and I copied a few minutes of the movie from each of my friends over the course of a couple months. It took about an hour to find the exact part to start at to make sure there were no hiccups in the recording, but by then we only had a couple minutes to copy what was next before dinner was ready.
Then the next day we’d set it all up at another friend’s house and do it again.
Upvote for the silly joke. 😄
i completely agree. its just the wrong term. when op said “et torrent recorded in the theater” i assumed someone digitized an old pirate vhs and put it up on torrent.
but this may just be like the term “vhs player” where the kids these days have no reason to care that it was called a vcr.
also i could be wrong, but i always understood warez the be more a software thing, and not just any media.
Strictly speaking,a VCR is a video cassette recorder. If it doesn’t have recording capability, it’s just a player.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that couldn’t record, though.
I asked this question at an electronics store. I was told “technically that’s a VCP, Video Cassette Player”. I asked if they had any. They said no.
My understanding is that they could all record. It seems like the technology to play is just the inverse of the technology to record. Like how a speaker can be used as a microphone.
My girlfriend’s dad had hundreds of movies on VHS, pirated from cassettes he’d rented in the past and copied at home by chaining two VCRs together over coaxial cable.
Software was wild pre-internet. My buddy had Windows 95 on 42 3¼" floppies that we copied onto additional sets of 42 floppies that we kept in heavy boxes and then painstakingly installed onto computers belonging to friends and family around the neighbourhood.
I also had a whole bunch of audio cassettes that contained music I dubbed from radio, other cassettes, and later CDs (burning your own was at first, impossible, and later, expensive).
I’m 46.
Back in the early 80’s we would extract video games from cartridges with a memory dump and then transfer that to the old 5 inch floppies. Then upload them to mostly hidden directories in college bbs and internet systems and then share the location in what was then basically chat rooms and BBS boards.
It would take all night to get a game on a 300 baud modem but it did work.
Its amazing how far back network shares really go.
My parents “pirated” all the time when I was a kid. We’d generally have no more than basic cable (usually just antenna). There would be free weekends for HBO, Cinemax, or Showtime back when there was only one of each. My parents always had blank 8hr VHS cassettes and they’d record three movies to each. They recorded on SLP or EP mode (depending on the VCR model) to get that much time per cassette and it would end up with the crappiest quality ever. If you think VHS is shit quality, watch a movie on EP mode. Our movie collection was pretty extensive, but 90% of it was this.
You’d have to remember to reset the counter when putting in the tape and fast forward to a specific counter time written on the cassette in order to see the movie you want. My favorites were always second or third.
I vaguely remember talk of Dad climbing the pole to connect the cable himself but that went away when cable boxes became a requirement. There was also a time when he ran a coax from the neighbor’s apartment and we split the bill. That didn’t last long though because that neighbor moved.
My parents were sailing the seven seas back when your only option was a row boat.
My parents had a A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back VHS tapes that they recorded from TV showings… but not ROTJ. I spent like 2 or 3 years worrying about Han because we didn’t have ROTJ lol.
My (58yo) VHS cinéphile collection was freaking extensive. Back then, as today, we didn’t watch TV but I bought, and scrutinised to no end, the program & set the VCR to record. I always had blanks, 3h for long movies and 4h for 2 “normal” ones. When we moved countries, at a time when DVDs where a thing, a friend of mine asked to keep the tapes because it was so good. Every Hitchcock, every Bogart, every Kubrick, every… You name it. Series even.
Yeah quality was shit, but “tomb of the fireflies” and “princess bride” totally made to the deepest of my heart, until today and forever. At work I had “Singing in the rain” as a testing tape - each time I used it, you had everyone passing in front of the beamer stop, and watch.
Emotion trumps quality.
Singing in the rain is a banger that I rewatch every now and then. Everyone should watch it, even if you’re not “into” musicals - there’s SO much more going on! A fun satire of hollywood using every trick in the book to get there. chef’s kiss
My Dad got us a fancy VCR that could fast forward to chapter markers we could manually add to each vhs. Of course, fast forward wasn’t instant, and sometimes the marker on the tape would get corrupted over time…
Recording music from the radio (or video from tv) at home was not and is not piracy/illegal. In fact it is part of your rights when you buy a blank cassette.
To this day almost all countries recognize this right to home recording. As long as you aren’t acting to circumvent a copy protectionion system you are good to go.
I had some friends who would go on holiday and come back with VHS tapes with badly photocopied covers. The films were really bad quality as well. I was too young to understand what piracy was so I just thought that really bad videos were normal in the country to which they were going.
And you were right!












