so we lost lost all progress in limiting irans ability to create nuclear weapons in order to stop them from creating unuclear weapons. Well thats definately all trumped up.
A ceasefire were you don’t achieve any goals, and the opposing side gets major concessions is a defeat.
The Iranian regime survived. The nuclear programme survived. Iran now has the right to charge tolls on an international strait. The US is negotiating an withdrawal from the Middle East. Iran will get rid of the sanctions. And in they will get reparations as a cherry on top.
wait what ahaha seriously? this is going to be the most “we actually lost” victory Trump is going to declare. can’t wait for him to call this “deal” (no lmao) a peaceful cessation of power and a success. iran couldn’t get more out of this if they tried.
So this 2 weeks is just them ending it and it’s over and we’re just going to forget about it because that’s how the news cycle works and then this never happened Jesus f****** Christ murica lost again but the billionaires won cuz they made money on this by rug pulling the world’s economy why do we live in capitalism so people can do this
Well, I think some good came out of this. Mostly evil, but some good.
I’m looking at (used) EVs seriously now. I’m betting a lot of other people are also trying to move to EVs after the nth price shock in x years. This one went at least as bad here as the start of the Ukraine war.
Also there are now politicians in Germany initiating discussions about restarting some of the nuclear plants if possible. My own country sadly isn’t too progressive on these issues, most people want shale rock to be brought back rather than additional wind turbines being built, since there were some points during the winter where there was no wind when it was really cold and electric prices shot through the roof.
We’ve already dammed the like 3 rivers we have. We just don’t really have any major ones here :/
We do have copious amounts of shale rock and it’s pretty much the only natural resource we have that’s worth the money to mine. Which is why a lot of people aren’t happy about reducing it.
But even fossil fuels aren’t as reliable as people seem to think. The fancy new shale rock generator has been down as much as it has been up. They keep investing more money into it. Yay taxes.
Trump will start to walk back on this the second they sit down and possibly offer “personal gains” they just cant refuse. Iran will just walk out and all this shit will continue.
I don’t think Trump would agree to #6. However, Trump could explain to Iran that ending sanctions would enable Iran to rebuild. #2 and #5 require explanation. Trump would probably agree to letting Iran having sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, but they would have to keep it open. Iran would have to agree to any UN resolution banning it from developing a nuclear bomb.
What Trump has agreed to…
so we lost lost all progress in limiting irans ability to create nuclear weapons in order to stop them from creating unuclear weapons. Well thats definately all trumped up.
So basically the US lost is what I’m reading here. Not even a ceasefire just a straight defeat.
Look, let Trump save face. Let him gloat that he won. It’s better than him bombing innocent people.
Probably why it won’t last, or at least violated several times.
Wouldn’t be the first time they mask loss
You can literally read the word “ceasefire” if you open the article lmao
A ceasefire were you don’t achieve any goals, and the opposing side gets major concessions is a defeat.
The Iranian regime survived. The nuclear programme survived. Iran now has the right to charge tolls on an international strait. The US is negotiating an withdrawal from the Middle East. Iran will get rid of the sanctions. And in they will get reparations as a cherry on top.
I’m sure Japan signed a ceasefire back then too
A ceasefire with guarantee not to repeat aggressions is either a lie or a defeat
i am presuming it’s a lie, but i would prefer defeat. kind of hard to keep a ceasefire when one party notoriously does not recognize ceasefires
wait what ahaha seriously? this is going to be the most “we actually lost” victory Trump is going to declare. can’t wait for him to call this “deal” (no lmao) a peaceful cessation of power and a success. iran couldn’t get more out of this if they tried.
It reminds me of that scene from the newer All Quiet On The Western Front when the diplomats negotiated an end to WWI.
Do we have a source for this?
So this 2 weeks is just them ending it and it’s over and we’re just going to forget about it because that’s how the news cycle works and then this never happened Jesus f****** Christ murica lost again but the billionaires won cuz they made money on this by rug pulling the world’s economy why do we live in capitalism so people can do this
Well, I think some good came out of this. Mostly evil, but some good.
I’m looking at (used) EVs seriously now. I’m betting a lot of other people are also trying to move to EVs after the nth price shock in x years. This one went at least as bad here as the start of the Ukraine war.
Also there are now politicians in Germany initiating discussions about restarting some of the nuclear plants if possible. My own country sadly isn’t too progressive on these issues, most people want shale rock to be brought back rather than additional wind turbines being built, since there were some points during the winter where there was no wind when it was really cold and electric prices shot through the roof.
why are we destroying our environment with shale rock when we can destroy our environment with hydroelectric and get waterskiing out of it
We’ve already dammed the like 3 rivers we have. We just don’t really have any major ones here :/
We do have copious amounts of shale rock and it’s pretty much the only natural resource we have that’s worth the money to mine. Which is why a lot of people aren’t happy about reducing it.
But even fossil fuels aren’t as reliable as people seem to think. The fancy new shale rock generator has been down as much as it has been up. They keep investing more money into it. Yay taxes.
Trump will start to walk back on this the second they sit down and possibly offer “personal gains” they just cant refuse. Iran will just walk out and all this shit will continue.
Mission Accomplished, part 2
I don’t think Trump would agree to #6. However, Trump could explain to Iran that ending sanctions would enable Iran to rebuild. #2 and #5 require explanation. Trump would probably agree to letting Iran having sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, but they would have to keep it open. Iran would have to agree to any UN resolution banning it from developing a nuclear bomb.