A second United States Air Force combat aircraft crashed in the Persian Gulf region on Friday as rescue teams continued searching for a missing crew member from a downed F-15E Strike Eagle, according to two U.S. officials cited by The New York Times.
The second aircraft, an A-10 Thunderbolt II, went down near the Strait of Hormuz, and its pilot was safely rescued, the officials said.
The crash occurred around the same time that an F-15E was shot down over Iran, where one crew member has already been recovered and search teams continue looking for the second.
More millions lost due to a pedophile who legally shouldn’t have even been able to run for office for inciting an insurrection against the government.
The a10 should not be in service in iran. Thats a death trap for its crew.
If Iran has the capabilities we have attributed to them for the last 30 years we are going to see a lot more of these losses. We haven’t faced an anti-air capable enemy like Iran since 1975.
If we the people dont get a handle on these traitors it is going to get ripe as fuck. This country isn’t ready for rationing and hyperinflation.
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I’ve wondered once or twice whether or not the reason the American cult of the military saw such a rise in the minds of the average American over my lifetime is because we haven’t had a real war against anything close to military peer since I was born. Not discounting the effect 9/11 had which was profound, but when people don’t see the true carnage of war and the sacrifices that have to be made when it’s close to even footing they forget why most war is bar
I’m going to be downvoted i know it. I don’t want to be in Iran, I don’t know why we are there.
But, what we are doing on Iran is not even close to a conventional/real war. If Orange Cheeto in charge hasn’t already done to much damage to our military by forcing the good commanders out, and we went to “real war” with Iran, boots on the ground and all. We wouldn’t be losing these planes. But at the moment we are hanging the planes/fighters out to dry with little to no support. So yes, they are going to get shot down. But you can’t call this a “real war”
If America puts boots on the ground in Iran, it’s game over for American soldiers. They’ll get slaughtered like pigs at the trough.
History should provide every American about how poorly it does in war when they can’t just nuke a country to win. Just don’t read your own history books as they are full of lies.
The amount of American lives lost and bloodshed to win this stupid war would be massive and they’ll create way more extremists who still hate America.
American soldiers in mountains will have zero capability to stop the Iranians that have most likely been preparing for something such as this for decades.
Afghanistan should have been the litmus test for this, but the pathetic population voted in a 34 time convicted rapist and pedophile (twice), and alcoholic wife beating news anchor who’s not only unqualified to report the news, but is actively firing very qualified generals because they wont toe the line for operation Epstein distraction. Just as you said.
Boots on the ground would be another occupation where neither side win, they’d spend trillions of dollars on a stupid war and just like every other war, you’ll pull out like JD Vance when he’s about to cum in the White House couch and leave a mess everywhere and move on.
It’s literally the American manifesto. Invade, lose, pull out and claim victory.
Say what you will, Afghanistan wasn’t a “real war” either.
I’m not going to say if we would win or lose in Iran. Again I DONT want to be their. The other major American losses you are mentioning were before the beast that is the American military became a large portion of our spending. The American military industrial complex largely came about in the past 50 years.
When the American military has a uniformed enemy and a target to destroy/apprehend we are one of the best military powers in the world.
Iran for SURE would have home field advantage. But if we went to war home field advantage wouldn’t mean much when we can park our destroyers in your pond, deploy a defense garrison on the ground to protect them and shell the country’s military emplacements to smithereens. Send troops in helos as fast surgical attacks.
The last military operation that we partook in that was a war action and not a peace keeping action to my recollection was operation desert storm. right/wrong or indifferent about being their we know how to do fast attacks against uniformed military. And that is why you didn’t see uniformed enemies fighting in Afghanistan. They used gorilla tactics quite well against us and we didn’t have an answer.
Mate. You were in Afghanistan for 20 years at a cost of 2.6 trillion and left it in worse shape with the same people in charge that you went in to overthrow, but with more hatred against the U.S. and the other western nations that helped.
https://amarkfoundation.org/reports/afghanistan-war-costs/
Iran’s had 50 years to also prepare and is waiting for Americans.
A Patriot missile costs $4 million to shoot. A shaed drone cost between 10-30k. So far American might has proven pretty unsuccessful at stopping these drones overall.
What are boots on the ground going to do against cheap but destructive warfare when hundreds are launched at the same time at the same target, which in this case are human beings?
American simply doesn’t have the tech to stop this type of attack. These things fly under the radar and have 1 single purpose: To kill. So far, they’ve proven effective. Just ask Ukraine.
Look at the Israeli iron dome. It’s becoming harder to stop the barrage of attacks from the drones, cluster and ballistic missiles Iran is throwing at them.
These types of systems are good for periodic attacks but you quickly run out of ammo fighting them, hence the U.S. pulling military ammo and weapons from places such as South Korea.
I think you’re really romanticizing the capability of American warfare here.
I’m neither with Iran or the U.S. in its current state both countries suck and both need new governments.
However I fucking seriously despise the U.S. at this moment in time. I can’t wait for the Trump regime to die, but America has dug such a hole that not a single other country is coming to their aid.
I think America is in for a big shock when they start moving grunts to the forefront. It’s not going to be pretty for them. Hopefully you and or your kids are not within a draft able age, because it’s most likely coming if you see what they’re doing with increasing the age of eligibility.
There’s a quote from a song by one of my favourite bands (bad religion) that I grew up listening to from my days when it was the gulf war:
“God, I know that it’s wrong To kill my brother for what he hasn’t done. And as the planes blacken the sky. It sounds like heaven is falling.
God I want to be a man, but I won’t want to die with a rifle in my hand. And as the planes blacken the sky it sounds like heaven is falling. “
All this death, because a corrupt rapist doesn’t want those Epstein files released, and a failed TV host is a bootlicker who also wants to kill as many people as possible, even if it’s Americans.
I mean, you didn’t address anything i said. You don’t understand what “real wars” are. Afghanistan was not a war and there was no way to win, hence any comparison you use to it is rediculous.
What are those drones or those defenses going to do about an naval artillery bombardment? Not high tech missiles, just straight shells hundreds of miles away?
I’m not a fan of either nation at the moment. You are just romanticizing anti America sentiment, which, you do you boo, I disluke them at the moment too.
I’m also going to ignore the Afghanistan in worse shape sentiment. If you think women shouldn’t go to school, be heard or be seen, you are not even worth having a discussion with.
“but America has dug such a hole that not a single other country is coming to their aid.” I mean, we are their with Israel. Not that I like them out agree with what they are doing. But that is a single other country.
" Hopefully you and or your kids are not within a draft able age, because it’s most likely coming if you see what they’re doing with increasing the age of eligibility."
This conflict with Iran would not require a draft by any means. Why would you think it would? Iran reportedly has 610k active duty personnel, while America has 1.33-1.34 million active duty personnel. With the arguable American military tech advantage, if this went to a real war, how? How do you think Iran would destroy them?
Yeah nah. They’re just not as good as they think they are.
There’s a reason for having the allies. They’re the brains of the team.
The US tries a full scale conventional war on that territory, they’ll get thumped there as well. Sure, we’ll get great clips on infrastructure being destroyed and as they do, civilians being double tapped but the real story will be different.
Why do you think the people who dictate terms to the US won’t send their own troops in, but send Americans to die for them?
Hyperinflation would be awesome. I could pay off my student loans by selling 3 eggs
If you have any spare ram, you still have a chance.
Hyperiflation erases debt. I imagine a lot of powerless people would welcome it.
Rationing
Good catch, thank you.
The US lost quite a few aircraft during Desert Storm.
The US lost 33 to combat opperations in Desert Storm, 170 in Desert Storm 2 Electric Boogaloo. In contrast it is estimated the US lost 10k in Vietnam.
I wonder how badly this could have gone had Iran’s military been at their prime.
They used to have a seriously competent airforce which they could have easily transitioned into modern Chinese tech had they invested into it.
Even now without it, they have a bloody history of a war with Iraq in which they also had to defend with a terrible lack of parts and supplies.
I still feel bad that their successful hit on an F-35 didn’t result in a kill considering they had to hit it at close range with an IR missile.
The US military is also arguably not at it’s prime now either - but I’d say Iran is much better equipped now than it was a decade ago (when Trump nixed Obama’s nuclear agreement).
Burrrrrrrtttttt, noo!
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