Last time I checked on fairphone they weren’t doing the due diligence for basic security, and that’s why grapheneos won’t touch them

Did they get worse?

Yes, but its a ketogenic eating pattern. Zero carb.

Carnivore is a type of keto, and gets all of the benefits we see with keto

Carnivore I wouldn’t be surprised about though.

Carnivore is just keto.

PBF : Plant based food - The all plant based diet that gets lots of press

ABF : Animal based foods - the zero carbohydrate ketogenic that usually has lots of controversy

I would love to see a well funded interventional study on institutionalized populations comparing a totally pbf diet vs totally abf diets and settle the debate once and for all.

You would be very surprised! The effects of low-carbohydrate diets on cardiovascular risk factors: A meta-analysis

TLDR Metabolic health is mostly impacted by poor diet, excess glucose and carbohydrates (which directly become glucose). Reducing elevated glucose levels has direct and measurable improvements on blood pressure and CVD risk.

A strict ketogenic intervention is so potent that people taking blood pressure medication have to be very careful and monitor their blood pressure when starting to reduce their medicine so they don’t faint from hypotension… i.e. Cardiovascular disease risk factor responses to a type 2 diabetes care model including nutritional ketosis induced by sustained carbohydrate restriction at 1 year: an open label, non-randomized, controlled study

A decade ago I watched a YouTube series about a space Opera musical. It was great, I can’t find it anymore. But because of your post I put all of the things I can remember about it into chatGpt and it found it

I give you: Stingray Sam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfggiZLn60

This has lived in my head forever. And it totally disappeared off the internet for a long time

KISS

The more complicated the machine the more chances for failure.

Remote management plus bare metal just works, it’s very simple, and you get the maximum out of the hardware.

Depending on your use case that could be very important

3-2-1 every copy is encrypted, so taking the machine isn’t much of a concern and more of a inconvenience

!cancer@lemmy.dbzer0.com

As others have said in this thread, the single most impactful thing you can do for fat loss is changing a bad diet into a good sustainable diet.

Nobody has mentioned this yet, keto is the key. Removing all sugar and carbohydrates from your diet will make you lose weight faster than anything else you could possibly do. Every time you eat carbohydrates, you pause your body’s fat burning for about 2 to 4 hours. So if every meal you’re eating carbs, and you’re having a carb snack, you’re pausing fat burning all day, the only time you have to burn fat is when you sleep.

This is how intermittent fasting works, that’s why people see good results, they’re not eating the carbohydrates during their fasting window, and they can burn fat.

The good thing about low carb eating is you don’t have to calorie count at all, your bodies normal hunger signals will work properly, just eat when you are hungry and stop when you are not.

Working out with a bad diet, will most certainly make you gain weight, especially fat. If your diet is carbohydrate heavy, heavy processed foods, heavy in sugars, when you get hungry after working out, you’re going to eat more of the bad food. Which is going to make you fatter. You need to fix the diet first

The gym is great, it’s great for your overall health, it’s great for longevity, but it is not the key to fat loss. You can’t out exercise a bad diet

If you can swing it, get a continuous glucose monitor, and monitor your glucose all day, keep that number as low as possible. It’s great immediate feedback for every meal. Of course you can go to the gym! Just cut the carbs

I haven’t tested this myself, but I think the multiple users on Android would all have their own separate USB mass storage device areas. So if you switch to user b, attach the computer, allow on the phone the mounting. It’s user B’s files that get shown not user A’s

Good research!

Trouble is the time from a new metabolic model being defined, and proven in the literature is just the start then it takes 20-40 years for it to make it into the medical community as acceptable knowledge… Basically the doctors educated before the new publications have to retire out.

Expect at least two decades of “its CICO” before people acknowledge the hormonal impact of food

They didn’t have the formal language but their ideas are true. Humans don’t digest calories, we consume matter, we are not bomb calorimeters. Carbohydrates drive insulin which drives obesity.

Is it possible to never go to a fast food chain?

We have the physical addiction to glucose, but you have overcome that before

We have the habitual triggers, something in your life makes you think of your old addiction, those you have to find a way to get past, maybe the snacking

We have the situational triggers, seeing a place, going past a place, triggers old addictive cravings, this is where having a buddy you can call and talk it out can be helpful.

If you are willing to wear a CGM all the time, you can have a buddy monitoring it and get alerts if it goes outside of a predefined range (say 6.5) so your buddy can help you deal with the recovery

When you fall off the wagon before, you mentioned fast food, but what is different the month before falling off and the day you fall off?

Did you get a chance to read the carbohydrate insulin model of obesity paper?

i.e. the physics isn’t important if you turn OFF fat burning, it’s impossible to lose fat

Maybe a accountability buddy who can see your CGM data in real time can help?

Strategies I’ve found to get over cravings:

• Stuff my face with a safe food like cheese, eggs, butter (yes, really)
• Having my personal trainer get my CGM data
• Tell myself I can cheat but only if I eat a can of tuna and 100g of cheese first
• Set small multi-day goals, I’m just going to stay clean for 3 days in a row
• Removing all illegal food from my house
• Staying at a friends house where I don’t have the familiar triggers
• Only allowing myself to cheat if my blood glucose is <5.0 and I eat the cheese first.

What do you find helps you?

According to a book I am reading, diet science currently agrees that there is one way to loose weight: A calorie deficit.

Not actually true, broadly true, but not actually true.

For example, if I need 2000 kcal a day and eat only 1500 kcal a day, I will loose some weight over the next weeks/months.

I strongly recommend not doing a blind calorie deficit for body composition purposes. This non-fasting deficiency will reduce your resulting metabolic rate.

Calories are basically measured by burning food and measuring how much energy was set free.

Calories are measured by exploding items in a bomb Calorimeter and measuring the photons produced. This is a mechanical apparatus that tells us about combustion, but is not the human digestion system (there are real differences). For instance wood has amazing calorie density but doesn’t do much for you as a human if you eat it.

My question is: Why and how does it work so good and why are calories interchangeable?

It broadly works in that if your burning X calories per day but only supplying X-500 calories the deficiency will need to be mobilized from your stored fat (ideally), but the body can also solve this little math equation by reducing your metabolic rate reducing the burn, it certainly will increase your hunger and cravings.

Calories are 100% NOT interchangeable.

They key is that thermodynamics applies to closed systems without mass transfers. Humans are open systems that do mass transfers all the time pooping, eating, drinking, peeing, breathing (carbon, oxygen, water vapor), and while humans don’t violate the laws of thermodynamics it is nearly impossible to isolate the system to meaningfully

The far more clinically relevant viewpoint is the [Paper] The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity - Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out” - 2018

Fat burning, requires the absence of insulin in the blood. People using CICO for weight control are entering a low insulin state between meals, when they sleep, etc. Any time carbohydrates are consumed, blood glucose rises, raising insulin - when insulin is elevated the body will not mobilize fat from adipose tissue, i.e. it pauses fat burning. So someone eating the standard 3 meals and 3 snacks with carbs is pausing their fat burning 6 times per day (for 2-4 hours per eating session depending on their inherit insulin resistance) - Which is almost the entire day.

This means a calorie from carbohydrates pauses fat burning for 2-4 hours, but a calorie from fat or protein does not. A calorie is not a calorie.

Why is there no difference (concerning weight loss), if I eat 1500 calories as pure sugar or eat them as pure protein (where I would assume the body needs more energy to break down the protein)?

There is a huge difference, as detailed above, the 1500 calories of sugar pauses the fat burning, the 1500 calories of protein does not. At the end of a day of eating sugar you will have less time actually burning stored fat.

The downvotes I get when I talk about the limitations of the CICO rule of thumb show how appealing it is to people, but the reality of the human system is rooted in hormones and they can’t be ignored.

It is possible to burn fat while consuming more then 1500 calories per day, body recomposition is documented in case studies of hyper caloric diets… this only works because of the insulin hormonal model.

Then read more.

I’ve actually read quite a lot so far.

• https://hackertalks.com/post/14461366
• https://hackertalks.com/post/15415375/10684186

Reading about nutrition and metabolic health is my hobby.

That said I’m always happy to read more, if you have any primary non-epidemiology publications you can recommend I’d be happy to read them.

That is a ton of misinformation

Actually it’s really solid advice and lines up with my reading.

Starting off with stating that bread and other grain are only simple carbohydrates when whole grains are an easy source of complex carbs.

It really doesn’t matter, complex or simple all carbohydrates get turned into blood glucose, the only difference is a 15m onset delay. Blood glucose is blood glucose, if you want to fight cravings and low energy, you want to keep it low and even.

And while sugar can be addictive it’s literally a nutrient that our body needs and if we fail to eat it, our body will just break down protein to produce it

We absolutely do not need to eat sugar, the body will produce the tiny amount of glucose required via gluconeogenesis, when someone is fat adapted the vast majority of the body will run on fat, reducing the need for any glucose at all (only red blood cells, and 3-5% of the brain will still require glucose)

Then while fats may by a good source of energy (because they offer 9 calories per gram) they are also an easy way to over consume calories because they are so dense.

Fat is very satiating, it is VERY difficult to overeat fat in the absence of sugar. As a example think about eating a stick of butter by itself, that would be a difficult task if your not very hungry indeed.

Saturated fats are still problematic and try and look for some articles published outside of the U.S.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/saturated-fat#evidence-to-date

Saturated fat has been pilloried unfairly by the lipid heart hypothesis which is based on fabricated data. It’s vilification does not stand up to modern scrutiny. Basically fat is good for you.

Then you start talking about vegetable oils being bad when olive oil has been the gold standard for healthy oil. There has been a ton of misinformation going around about seed oils trying to make them into the devil but again look for some RFK free Studies

Industrial oils are examples of extremely processed foods which have many downsides, causing whole body inflammation, interfering with cholesterol rafts, artificially lowering lipoproteins (this is a bad thing). It’s true real authentic olive oil can be produced without heavy processing and avoids these issues, but it’s nearly impossible to source genuine olive oil, it is almost always adulterated with cheaper industrial oils (vegetable oils).

There is no nutritional requirement in human health for industrial oils, they provide nothing essential, it is more prudent to eat real animal fats instead of fats from a chemical factory.