The Ukrainian president warned airlines, insurers and foreign governments that the growing scale of Kyiv’s drone operations would make Russian airspace increasingly unsafe for aircraft.
The Ukrainian president warned airlines, insurers and foreign governments that the growing scale of Kyiv’s drone operations would make Russian airspace increasingly unsafe for aircraft.
If the Ukrainians shoot down a Chinese civilian airliner, they would be fucking themselves at a level that has not been seen since Pearl Harbor.
I doubt Ukrainian drones can even fly that high. This is a kind warning to let people know that russian air defense is going to be so keyed up that they’ll likely shoot down civilian airliners. Again.
Drones aren’t the only tool in the kit. There’s no shortage of anti-air defenses that can hit commercial airliners, especially as they’re taking off or landing.
If a civilian aircraft is shot down, the Ukrainians will almost certainly insist the Russians did it themselves. Idk how many people will believe them, after Zelensky basically painted a target on every Russian airport.
If you’re flying a civilian plane near a warzone you don’t get to cry when it gets hit.
Okay, now say it in the original Japanese
I assume that’s a Confucius quip but he was Chinese, perhaps you should clarify what you mean.
Christ you’re dumb
Forgive me and just explain it, no need for the dramatics.
While Ukraine has a huge domestic drone assembly industry, I’m sure a lot of the basic chips and radios are still coming from China. It’s not hyperbole to say the war hinges on that supply continuing.
OTOH, Russia AA loves shooting down civilian airliners and they’re going to be getting twitchy around airports now.
I don’t think anyone was suggesting the ukrainians would do that. Buuuut if a Chinese aircraft ended up colliding with a drone after being warned not to fly in Russian airspace, well then it’s just an unfortunate accident and it could have been avoided had they heeded the warning.
I’d be more worried that Russia downs a Chinese aircraft and blames it on Ukraine.
I don’t think that accident will happen. See above pearl harbor comment.
Of course, killing however many civilians is always just collateral, if the right side does it.
WTF is even the point that you’re trying to argue? That Ukraine should roll over and allow itself to be conquered? I doubt whether that’s the point you’re making, so please explain the underlying point of your argument, because it’s not as self-evident as you seem to think it is.
Don’t fantasise about war crimes, just because you think you’re on the right team. It’s not that complicated.
Who’s fantasizing?
Let’s not pretend Ukraine ultra echodot up there was articulating a pragmatic and neutral scenario. But if you do, you can also pretend to have entirely identical feelings on similar scenarios involving other players.
Or, you could admit that you make differences, depending on who’s who.
If a Ukraine “ultra” was going to fantasize about a scenario of that ilk, it would be that Chinese airlines simply stop flying over Russia. That’s what would help Ukraine. A Chinese civilian airliner getting accidentally shot down in Russian airspace wouldn’t really help Ukraine except to encourage Chinese airlines to simply stop flying over Russia, and if that’s the result one is looking for, one would prefer to skip straight to that part and not have the civilian casualties in the first place, since Ukraine depends on international goodwill.
No, I think you’ve neglected to consider the possibility that echodot’s comment was meant to be read at face value: that Ukraine doesn’t want civilians shot down, but it’s not going to sabotage its own war efforts to avoid that scenario either; not when civilians NOT flying into warzones is the easier and more obvious preventative.