I hate Iran’s theocracy as much as the next guy, but he makes a very valid point that should also resonate in Europe, if European leaders have any sense of self-preservation.
So nothing has changed, Iran says for the 785 time “America Bad”
So Brave
So Original
Iran elects popular leader who wants oil revenue to benefit his people instead of foreign interests -> US installs the Shah who is unpopular but friendly to US oil interests -> Iranian revolution of 1979 installs the current regime.
And your solution to this is… more regime change? Shouldn’t the US have learned a lesson?
Maybe a more recent lesson would make more sense?
Iraq regime is unfriendly to the US - US takes out Saddam’s regime -> Rise of ISIS -> US has a huge mess to clean up now in both Iraq and Syria -> forever war continues.
At what point do we admit that US interventions probably aren’t a good idea?
Don’t care. Bomb the shit out of them.
The world is starting to believe the Iranians. Americans putting their boot on the throat of smaller foreign nations. So Brave. So Original.
As they’ve always done.
Americans
you mean The US government. Americans don’t like it as much as you and saying anything else is akin to saying racist shit.
As an American (assume you are as well, but you might not be), I know from context that this generally means the country, not every single individual.
And as a country, we really have put out boot down on a lot of countries’ necks.
So it’s really really not racist to point this out.
It’s like saying “Israel is genociding the Palestinians”. There are some Israelis who disagree with Israel’s actions. Same with anything Iranian leadership says. It’s the same for pretty much any country in the world.
Believing what, please explain.
That “America is bad”.
Nope we are the best, I don’t see people sneaking into Iran like we see in the God blessed US of A
There’s no way this idiot is a real American.
If I wasn’t I would be doing my best to become a legal American! But I was blessed being born in the best country on the planet.
The fact that your name is based around being a part of the galactic empire is very on the nose lol.
Cute.
Go back to reddit, loser.
Yawn
America is Bad. Iran was one of the most free and socially liberal countries until the US, UK, and France started to tamper with their democracy. When they say America bad its 100% true. Can’t directly or indirectly kill millions of their people and say we’re anything different. Let me ask you something? Do you think people in Venezuela and Cuba think “America bad”? If so why?
As far as 1970’ autocratic dictatorships go, Iran was probably one of the most “liberal”. But it was still a brutal regime. The SAVAK tortured, imprisoned, disappeared and murdered countless opponents domestically and abroad, becoming one of the leading reasons of the Iranian revolution of '79. The fact that the Shah’s regime was replaced by an even worse and more repressive one doesn’t mean we can look at it through rose tinted glasses.
I love how you picked 1970 as your starting days. What happened before 1970…
I don’t think anyone is saying that the Shah was a good ruler. He was NOT, and he was propped up by US, UK because he was friendly to their interests. That’s the whole problem that is the reason the current regime was put in place in 1979.
Prior to the Shah, Iranians had a better regime but it wasn’t friendly to US, UK interests so was overthrown by the US, UK.
The “lesson learned” should have been that meddling in regime change can result in a worse outcome. US, UK thought the democratically elected regime wasn’t friendly enough to them, they installed the Shah, then ended up instead with an even less friendly regime.
Now we see the Republicans didn’t learn that lesson, because their voters largely don’t know the history. So here we are again, tried to meddle in regime change and likely just made their regime stronger and even less friendly.
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All wrong… The ones we ushered into power are not the current ones saying the US is bad. The ones in power now overthrew the people we put in power. The regime in power now is seen as liberaters and heros.
He’s saying that the US is responsible for the Ayatollahs being in power (even though that wasn’t the intent) because they installed the Shah who the people didn’t want the but was friendly to US interests.
So I think it’s accurate to say that the US unintentionally ushered the current regime into power by putting in an unpopular puppet dictator to replace an elected leader who was popular with his people (Mossadegh).
And? I really don’t care, fuck with us we will fuck you up. I love we are finally doing it to Iran. I remember the Beirut bombing that killed how many US Marine Corp? Since then I wanted nothing more than to turn them into a glass parking lot and all their sponsored minions.
And fuck venezuela and cuba too. We need to hit North Korea next… china is in collapse so that problem will fix itself when the people stop burning factories and start burning ccp. It in the post, mark my words.
🙄 Thank you for outing yourself as someone to block. I encourage everyone else: Don’t reply to trolls like this. Block them. Let them shout into empty voids.
I prefer tagging retreads like you, that way I can keep shitting on you in other subs.
It’s a way of saying Iranian’s don’t have real self determination. They are in control now and giving any credit to the US is false.
North Korea is a great country according to your Dear Leader. Why would he attack it?
So might makes right? I’m so glad you have that opinion. Your way of thinking has destroyed American power, and now we’re not the mightiest anymore. I’m glad our hubris will let more rational world superpowers control the world for a bit.
If you don’t agree with “America Bad”, a least for Maga America, I don’t know what rock you’ve been living under.
Then leave. Its not like we want you here.
I think you got that wrong. If anyone should leave, it’s fascist sympathizers.
lol there is that word again, I don’t think you know what it means.
You want to LARP and be self delusional I say all the power to you. The lot of you are callow, and your belief system is built on shifting sands. I would say more but I just don’t care about your delusions
Typical yank loudmouth.
Ah yis this really added to the conversation. You have any more tib bits of wisdom to bestow upon us? Go on we are listening with baited breath.
“tid bit” “bated breath” You absolute mayonnaise stain of a human being. Go read a fucking book.
Mayo is gross, who though raw eggs and oil was a good idea?
I read every day, books not text on a screen, I appreciate you concern for my reading habits.
Lacking the full understanding of autocorrect I forgive your transgressions. May you have a day, of what time is entirely up to you.
Lol, sod off.
What I expected, keep your expectations low and people will go lower. Here we are, added so much to the conversation, thank you.
The “conversation” was worthless the moment you entered it.
Iran would certainly like America to leave.
No the Iranian Regime would like us to leave. The Iranian people want to be free, they are good people that deserve that.
So you think they cool with US bombing schools full of kids and civilian infrastructure? Go troll somewhere else.
You know war was way messier than now? Before we carpet bombed, we dropped incendiaries on Japan as the houses were all wood.
Shit happens, they started it, we finish it.
Then by all means go sign up and volunteer for Middle East duty.
The Iranian people want to be free
I… uh… have some news for you.
A wiki page? Really?
Ok I get my info from on the ground, unfiltered, sometimes completely unintelligible but I trust it more than a wiki page.
Go grab a shortwave and get a good skip you can talk to a real Iranians. Best learn a bit of Farsi prior though.
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Oh and get your license or just listen.
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