It’s an objective question so anyone offering opinion is automatically disqualified
Just be honest about it
I get how people feel about it
But I want to get this discussion done with
We are Europoors, everywhere Americans voice an opinion. Then why expect us all to adhere to cultural standards as guests during an event for a sport you all claim not to watch anyway.
Oh and Americans aren’t supposed to learn how to act when they visit wherever you’re from? You’re absolutely fine with Americans being loud or whatever, no Euros ever whine about how Americans act? Give me a break, we learned it from watching you lol. (Side note, like that streamer that recently went to SK and did his dumb prank youtube videos but they don’t play that shit so he got his ass kicked and put in jail, he deserved it, I laughed at him.) Why do we get called out for not learning your culture but you can’t here?
Actually I’ve repeatedly used it as an example in this thread, if I go to Japan it is my responsibility to learn and abide by their custom where tipping is an insult, I shouldn’t force it just because “that’s my culture back home,” I should respect the culture I’m visiting. Same but opposite here.
“For a sport you claim not to watch” y’know what good point, IDGAF about association football, and you’re gonna come in here, make my restaurant busy and my boss a lot of money running me ragged all night AND not tip me? I’m gonna hate you more.
Why whine about not being able to afford rent this month because a bunch of selfish dickheads took all the tables that could have actually made me money instead of making me work for free? Gee idk why would anyone whine about it, homelessness is just like camping anyway, it’s fun really. (Can you feel the sarcasm radiating through your screen?)
I mean, a whole festival of non tippers filling up my restaurant for god knows how long taking up all the space for would-be tippers? Yeah.
“How overdrawn and pedantic to claim the parking lot will be a mess because of one unreturned cart” “how overdrawn and pedantic to think Yellowstone will be hurt by me taking just one thing” if everyone thought like you and all of it piles up, yes. It’s cumulative, but you play your part.
Oil prices? Oil companies. Not your server at fucking Denny’s. Not even your average American tourist. Oil prices are your culture? Where do you live Qatar?
Who is costing thousands to budget over here with no blaim
Either this needs context or there’s a translation error, sorry, no clue what you’re referencing. Whatever it is probably also isn’t your server at Denny’s or your average tourist, either, though.
Malice or stupidity, it matters not, your server at Denny’s didn’t do shit to you but bring you pancakes, go spite yourself.
I fixed that one sentence, you are correct that was a bit… Vague. I got upset.
My point remains, it is absolutely American to claim not tipping to be immoral.
I would like to point out that it is immoral to blame guests to your country for following laws. Fix your stupid hellhole of a country don’t blame us for stiffing you on a tip.
These people are spending thousands upon thousands, and will probably have a little bit of spite especially in Texas. Because you know what? Fuck you all right back. America number 1, Europoors no good.
If they can afford the flight, hotel, and tickets, they’re all doing better than the struggling waitstaff just trying to scrape by to the end of the month without going further into debt.
Eurotrash more like it, they have money just no class.
And you know the individual server is “always shitting on europeans” how exactly? I mean they might now after being stiffed by so many they had to add a European surcharge, but I mean before they deserved it.
Oh you don’t, it’s just more “America bad” like always? Figures. As if Europeans don’t spend way too much time and energy hating Americans constantly just on lemmy alone much less everywhere else. This is laughable.
No it’s not america bad like always but right now fuck yeah when you greedy bastards claim it’s wrong for a guest in your country with literal culture and societal differences to not know tipping is such a big deal
that’s your problem not theirs
From the article:
“*There’s been a lot of tables that have come in and had a tab of almost $700,” Daggett said.
She says most visitors aren’t being rude — they really don’t know how things work here.
“They do ask,” she said. “They say, ‘Oh, how do I do this?” I explain to them that tipping is big here in the city, and it’s a nice habit to do.*”
Just look at that phrasing a nice habit eh, giving away money in random amounts yes please more yes
Anything to not admit it’s a fucked system
You think we don’t know some servers prefer the system for the simple reason that they get paid loads depending on the location
Fuck outta here with the whining
Add gratuity to the charges but dont complain people aren’t giving enough money away to the worst allies of the century
It’s an objective question so anyone offering opinion is automatically disqualified
Just be honest about it
I get how people feel about it
But I want to get this discussion done with
We are Europoors, everywhere Americans voice an opinion. Then why expect us all to adhere to cultural standards as guests during an event for a sport you all claim not to watch anyway.
The answer is obvious.
It is not at all obligatory.
So why whine about it?
Oh and Americans aren’t supposed to learn how to act when they visit wherever you’re from? You’re absolutely fine with Americans being loud or whatever, no Euros ever whine about how Americans act? Give me a break, we learned it from watching you lol. (Side note, like that streamer that recently went to SK and did his dumb prank youtube videos but they don’t play that shit so he got his ass kicked and put in jail, he deserved it, I laughed at him.) Why do we get called out for not learning your culture but you can’t here?
Actually I’ve repeatedly used it as an example in this thread, if I go to Japan it is my responsibility to learn and abide by their custom where tipping is an insult, I shouldn’t force it just because “that’s my culture back home,” I should respect the culture I’m visiting. Same but opposite here.
“For a sport you claim not to watch” y’know what good point, IDGAF about association football, and you’re gonna come in here, make my restaurant busy and my boss a lot of money running me ragged all night AND not tip me? I’m gonna hate you more.
Why whine about not being able to afford rent this month because a bunch of selfish dickheads took all the tables that could have actually made me money instead of making me work for free? Gee idk why would anyone whine about it, homelessness is just like camping anyway, it’s fun really. (Can you feel the sarcasm radiating through your screen?)
How overdrawn and pedantic to claim the cause of homelessness will be a missed tip
What about oil prices, who’s costing who money here
Who is costing who thousands with no blaim towards the people because “gubment”. Y’all voted for this.
edit: that sentence was a bit… It’s fixed now.
I think none of it is malicious intent from the football fans. Some of it will be spite. Well fucking deserved.
I mean, a whole festival of non tippers filling up my restaurant for god knows how long taking up all the space for would-be tippers? Yeah.
“How overdrawn and pedantic to claim the parking lot will be a mess because of one unreturned cart” “how overdrawn and pedantic to think Yellowstone will be hurt by me taking just one thing” if everyone thought like you and all of it piles up, yes. It’s cumulative, but you play your part.
Oil prices? Oil companies. Not your server at fucking Denny’s. Not even your average American tourist. Oil prices are your culture? Where do you live Qatar?
Either this needs context or there’s a translation error, sorry, no clue what you’re referencing. Whatever it is probably also isn’t your server at Denny’s or your average tourist, either, though.
Malice or stupidity, it matters not, your server at Denny’s didn’t do shit to you but bring you pancakes, go spite yourself.
I fixed that one sentence, you are correct that was a bit… Vague. I got upset.
My point remains, it is absolutely American to claim not tipping to be immoral.
I would like to point out that it is immoral to blame guests to your country for following laws. Fix your stupid hellhole of a country don’t blame us for stiffing you on a tip.
These people are spending thousands upon thousands, and will probably have a little bit of spite especially in Texas. Because you know what? Fuck you all right back. America number 1, Europoors no good.
Europoors eh?
Rich waiters I guess then?
How much are tickets to these games?
If they can afford the flight, hotel, and tickets, they’re all doing better than the struggling waitstaff just trying to scrape by to the end of the month without going further into debt.
Eurotrash more like it, they have money just no class.
Point was you can’t have it both ways
You can’t always shit on us then expect us to give a shit about your problems
Figure it out and get your country sorted instead of blaming people for not giving you free money
And you know the individual server is “always shitting on europeans” how exactly? I mean they might now after being stiffed by so many they had to add a European surcharge, but I mean before they deserved it.
Oh you don’t, it’s just more “America bad” like always? Figures. As if Europeans don’t spend way too much time and energy hating Americans constantly just on lemmy alone much less everywhere else. This is laughable.
No it’s not america bad like always but right now fuck yeah when you greedy bastards claim it’s wrong for a guest in your country with literal culture and societal differences to not know tipping is such a big deal
that’s your problem not theirs
From the article:
“*There’s been a lot of tables that have come in and had a tab of almost $700,” Daggett said.
She says most visitors aren’t being rude — they really don’t know how things work here.
“They do ask,” she said. “They say, ‘Oh, how do I do this?” I explain to them that tipping is big here in the city, and it’s a nice habit to do.*”
Just look at that phrasing a nice habit eh, giving away money in random amounts yes please more yes
Anything to not admit it’s a fucked system
You think we don’t know some servers prefer the system for the simple reason that they get paid loads depending on the location
Fuck outta here with the whining
Add gratuity to the charges but dont complain people aren’t giving enough money away to the worst allies of the century