• TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    Point was you can’t have it both ways

    You can’t always shit on us then expect us to give a shit about your problems

    Figure it out and get your country sorted instead of blaming people for not giving you free money

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      20 hours ago

      And you know the individual server is “always shitting on europeans” how exactly? I mean they might now after being stiffed by so many they had to add a European surcharge, but I mean before they deserved it.

      Oh you don’t, it’s just more “America bad” like always? Figures. As if Europeans don’t spend way too much time and energy hating Americans constantly just on lemmy alone much less everywhere else. This is laughable.

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        15 hours ago

        No it’s not america bad like always but right now fuck yeah when you greedy bastards claim it’s wrong for a guest in your country with literal culture and societal differences to not know tipping is such a big deal

        that’s your problem not theirs

        From the article:

        “*There’s been a lot of tables that have come in and had a tab of almost $700,” Daggett said.

        She says most visitors aren’t being rude — they really don’t know how things work here.

        “They do ask,” she said. “They say, ‘Oh, how do I do this?” I explain to them that tipping is big here in the city, and it’s a nice habit to do.*”

        Just look at that phrasing a nice habit eh, giving away money in random amounts yes please more yes

        Anything to not admit it’s a fucked system

        You think we don’t know some servers prefer the system for the simple reason that they get paid loads depending on the location

        Fuck outta here with the whining

        Add gratuity to the charges but dont complain people aren’t giving enough money away to the worst allies of the century

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          14 hours ago

          No it’s not america bad like always but right now fuck yeah when you greedy bastards claim it’s wrong for a guest in your country with literal culture and societal differences to not know tipping is such a big deal

          Hell yeah I’ll keep that attitude next time I go abroad, not my problem to learn your customs it’s your problem dealing with Americans, sucks to suck I guess, get America’d on.

          Just look at that phrasing a nice habit eh,

          The “please don’t fire me boss I need to feed my children” phrasing? Yeah, ask her off record (if whoever quoted that is a server, if they’re the owner, there’s your answer.)

          I agree, add 35%.

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            14 hours ago

            See that’s where we are definitely ahead

            If you ignore our customs you would have nobody whining about it online or articles written about you. We will either correct or arrest depending on how far against logic you’ve been acting.

            We wouldn’t have this situation where we could go “oh no you are starving my people” because we actually have a working democracy

            Besides, to be fair, Americans don’t travel here anyway. Not working class ones. Too poor. We just get yuppies

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              12 hours ago

              Well that’s just outright false. If it happened en masse there likely would be articles and people do whine all the time online about it.

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                12 hours ago

                We are drifting far from actuality in our hypotheticals but I’ll argue that even though yes Americans are self absorbed enough to not see the world around them they must be beyond unintelligent if they see their peers getting corrected or arrested but still step up to the plate to make the exact same mistake. That would imply either complete idiocy or malicious intent.

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                  10 hours ago

                  they must be beyond unintelligent if they see their peers getting corrected or arrested but still step up to the plate to make the exact same mistake. That would imply either complete idiocy or malicious intent.

                  Interesting. Kinda like how the Euros must be beyond unintelligent if they see their peers getting corrected on tipping but still step up to the plate to make the exact same mistake. That would imply either complete idiocy or malicious intent, indeed.

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                    12 minutes ago

                    You know I read yesterday that it’s not even true. Restaurants are not as full as reported. Warning though, it’s a lot of words and logic coming at you all at once you might want to take several drugs and wear your stimming clothes:

                    Reports from host cities show that hotel bookings, restaurant foot traffic, and overall consumer spending are lagging far behind FIFA’s original multi-billion-dollar projections. Analysts point to astronomical flight costs, overpriced tickets, and a heavy reliance on domestic travelers rather than a massive influx of big-spending international tourists as the primary reasons the “boom” has stalled.

                    Several mainstream outlets (including The New York Times, Fortune, and Axios) published reports detailing how the promised financial windfall has been “more middling than booming.” Key trends highlighted in those pieces match your description perfectly:

                    1. The World Cup Economic Flop

                    Reports from host cities show that hotel bookings, restaurant foot traffic, and overall consumer spending are lagging far behind FIFA’s original multi-billion-dollar projections. Analysts point to astronomical flight costs, overpriced tickets, and a heavy reliance on domestic travelers rather than a massive influx of big-spending international tourists as the primary reasons the “boom” has stalled.

                    2. The Tipping Clash vs. The Reality

                    The articles directly address a viral narrative that international—specifically European—fans are “ruining” servers’ incomes by not tipping. Pieces by Axios and the New York Post highlighted a cultural disconnect:

                    • The Viral Complaint: Servers in hubs like New York, New Jersey, and Atlanta complained of “disgusting” tips (such as a $4 tip on a $300 tab from a group watching the Argentina vs. Algeria match). Because European service workers are paid full living wages and tipping is optional or minimal (typically 5%–10% for exceptional service), many visiting fans simply don’t comprehend U.S. “tipflation” or the prompt screens asking for 20% to 25%.
                    • The Business Countermeasure: To protect their workers’ wages in light of the underwhelming economic boom, hospitality associations in cities like Kansas City, Atlanta, and Boston have actively pushed restaurants to implement a temporary 20% mandatory automatic gratuity on all checks during the tournament.

                    (Oh noes, logic!)

                    This effectively framed the lack of a “boom” not as a malicious refusal by Europeans to pay, but as a systematic failure of U.S. businesses overestimating international demand while failing to prepare for global cultural differences in service wages.