Benjamin Netanyahu has said he has given orders to the Israeli army to seize control of 70% of the Gaza Strip in a move that threatens to torpedo an already fragile ceasefire and create catastrophic humanitarian conditions in the already devastated territory.

In recent days, Israeli-backed armed militias have taken a leading role in emptying the territory along the ceasefire line, telling residents to vacate their homes or shelters.

Throughout the eight months of the ceasefire, Israeli forces have continued to open fire on Palestinians within range of the “yellow line” splitting the strip, and carry out airstrikes deeper inside western Gaza, killing more than 900 Palestinians since the truce began.

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    I’m unclear what this means.

    Do you think Biden and Trump are different with regard to Palestine?

    I’m not one of those people who equivocates between Democrats and Republicans, but on this issue I’m genuinely unclear what someone would point to as a difference in policy between Biden and Trump.

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      It mean that cannonfoldder is a scum enjoying the situation in gaza because it serve his cult interests

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      Although it appeared to have minimal effect, Biden actually told Isreal to back down. His administration gave warnings about Isreal needing to select targets with more care about civilians collateral. They crossed his ‘red line’ and nothing much happened, but there was at least some pushback. Once Trump was elected, things got dramatically worse. Trump encouraged Isreal to ‘wipe out Gaza’. Remember the videos of Trump Casinos there? It was when Trump took power that Isreal went from picking military related targets without regard for civilian casualties, to actually targeting civilians en mass. And Isreal ramped up its blockade of humanitarian supplies. I agree that Biden wasn’t doing enough to push back. But this isn’t a case of them both being the same just because they both support Isreal too much.

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        Yeah sure. During biden

        70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed

        92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged
        88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed

        80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities

        Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.

        75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed

        Numbers do not lies, Biden was worse and fuck both Biden and trump

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          Don’t forget the 20 billion in military aid he sent, as they were committing the genocide

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              It’s maga or dems. Thats how it works now. You said you think they’re the same. So you’re just as happy with Trump.

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                I said they are the same strictly about gaza despite most of the damage was done during him but you are a dumb cultist pro genocide hypocrite who selecrively read what people say .

                You also lied about Biden, Biden did not restrict Israel he was willing to let Israel finish the rest if Gaza while pretending to seek a cease fire

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                  Project much? Biden was pushing back; we’ll never know what he would have done, because too many American mouth breathers didn’t see Dems as better than maga.

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                    I want to take a big step back and ask what the point of this conversation is.

                    Personally, I think we should study history to learn from it.

                    I think you should – as a mental exercise – imagine that although Biden objected to the optics, he fundamentally believed that the only way for Israeli Jews to be safe was to teach Palestinians the lesson that armed resistance will always elicit an unfathomable cost in their children’s blood. And that meant that an unrestrained total war on the civilian population was an unfortunate necessity.

                    If he believed this, but also found the glorification of racial hatred despicable, and recognized that politics and law required him to publicly disavow crimes against humanity…

                    what do you think he would do?

                    Really try to answer this question. And then ask how his real world choices differed.

                    The cost of Biden’s mistakes has been unbearable. So we had better learn lessons and make sure these mistakes are never repeated. And that requires an honest accounting.

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                    Biden did not push back. It is a fact. He bypassed the congres twice to give aid to Israel. He allowed Israel to add new conditions in cease fire term then blame the failure of reaching a deal on Hamas. Trump did bypass the congress too but becuse you are a dumb democratc cultist you will act i never condemned Trump. Both trump and biden could have secured a real cease fire but decided not to

                    https://internationalpolicy.org/publications/the-biden-administrations-false-history-of-ceasefire-negotiations/

                    You can’t deny that most of the destruction and murder of palestinians happened during Biden

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            these people that blame democrats for what republicans and israel do are so insufferable and a large part of why trump won again

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              It is you cultists who act like trump is not as bad as Biden. Nobody is blaming democrats for what republicans and israel do here

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                oh i see. you kneejerked bc i said “this is why trump won again” as if i wanted that outcome. i’m blaming all these fucking idiots here that equate democrats to republicans, and yes, dude, there are PLENTY of those people here. learn to fucking read

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                  I am mad because you dumb cultists can’t condemn Trump normally like us without whitewashing Democrats. Both parties are fully supporting the terrorist state of Israel, giving them billions of dollars, providing unlimited diplomatic protection, refusing to force Israel to do a real ceasefire; your war criminal presidents are constantly bypassing Congress to give more money to Israel to continue their campaign of extermination. Stricly about Palestine and Gaza they are the same while in other issues democrats are better.

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                what cult do i follow, asshole? trump’s infinitely worse than biden and only the most moronic contrarians can’t see that

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                    you’re such an idiot, just as brainwashed as everyone you think you’re smarter than. contrarian acting like he’s better than everyone else with ZERO actual strategy to make anything better. just bitch