• BurnedDonutHole@ani.social
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    2 days ago

    Unless you experienced Asian racism you didn’t experience racism fully. They don’t like anyone, even their own people. I’ve witness people being racist because someone is from another village let alone a city or country. I wonder if they also hate themselves as well.

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      I play EVE Online which has a decently sized Chinese playerbase and my god those racist fucks would give racists in the west a run for their money. See it daily of “small brained whites” or “The whites are here” or “white pig” or “sleepy whites”.

      But as soon as you joke and say “man it looks like the Tianamen Square Massacre of 1989 in here” in local chat they all collectively freak out on you.

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        Well man, they just are being mean and you suddenly drop a -100k social credit account bomb with area of effect.

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      I mean, people in a town I lived in were upset because kids from the next town over were using the public swimming pool. This was in northern Virginia, so not liking people from another village anywhere in the world hardly seems strange.

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      Wouldn’t hating someone from another village just be like generic Xenophobia? I can’t imagine two villagers from the same Asian country but two different villages are genetically distinct enough to count as different “races”. Or are we just using “racist” to mean “bigoted”

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          I agree, but that construct has a specific meaning, we don’t consider a random person from nearby village to be a different race.

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            “We” isn’t as universal as you are suggesting here.

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        2 days ago

        Depends. Many Asian countries consists of many different ethnic groups. So they do see each other as different races.

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        The word “rasist” is nowadays often used more widely. You’re right about the strict definition. I also think it’s reasonable to use it in a wider sense if the underlying feelings are the same, which seems to be the case here.

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          But, I mean, English already has a word for that (bigoted).

          Having, and properly using, different words for even slightly different concepts is important for efficient and effective communication. If everyone just starts lazily using one word to mean multiple similar concepts, when other words already exist for those concepts, then that just leads to misunderstandings and confusion.

          I understand that non-native speakers may not yet have the vocabulary necessary to use the correct words, but that’s an opportunity for them to learn the correct words, not an excuse to dumb down the language.

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      I’ve witness people being racist because someone is from another village

      We have this in Germany too. Traditionally, the area where I live hates the area where I was born. These two places are maybe an hour apart and in the same state. All because they were governed by different nobles ages ago who had different ideas about Christianity. Tbh though it was much more of a thing in my parents’ generation.

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        In Germany, hating others based on where they were born becomes more socially accepted the closer the “other” gets.
        Hating people from other countries is bad, hating people from East Germany is problematic, hating people from the neighboring German state is OK and hating people from the neighboring village is funny.

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        Yes I have experienced the exact same. I was questioned by “locals” when I moved villages. They wanted to know if I was doing enough for the community and keeping up with local events. My man I was born less than 10kms away.

        I guess they just prefer inbreeding and keeping the village to themselves. Not realizing without all the new construction and new people the village would have died out 20 years ago.

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        Ah yes, all the Swedes I had to ban from my discord for calling my black friends the N word were just being overly enthusiastic.

        Fuck you, every country has racists. Racism rises from a lack of empathy, exposure, and education. There’s always cruel, sheltered, idiots running around.

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          I found the comment funny for anyone who knows asia and in particular india. It is kinda where you come from but just like the earth there is a skin color difference in north south things.

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            Yeah thats a load of horseshit. Especially coming from a swede. Racism began in Europe and the Swedes have a pretty large amount of active nazis. The “weight” is exactly the same and I pity anyone dumb/naive enough to think different…

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        You haven’t been to asia it seems, we definitely did racism by skin colour as well.

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          Was in Thailand years ago helping out with an English-language program in a rural area. Noticed in the department stores when we went into town that Jergens sells a lot of lotions with “skin lightening” in the marketing…

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              I realize that. One of the guys who helped out as a grounds-keeper would wear a fleece-lined coat when outside. In Northeast Thailand. In June. He claimed that when a breeze came through the sleeves it cooled you down. Sure.

              I also went to college with a Japanese girl who took up surfing. Her family would criticize her for how dark her skin had gotten. It was amusing to me, as an American, how we came to prize darker skin (but not too dark, yeah?) and the same companies that sold us “bronzers” and stuff sold creams that did the opposite in other parts of the world.

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          But if you are all Asian it’s bigotry or xenophobia or a few other terms that don’t involve the huge groups that are “races”. Colour prejudice looks like racism but doesn’t use the same hierarchy.

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            Sure, we don’t have the “dark skin as slave fair skin as master” history, but we definitely practice it like we have it. It’s the same mindset.

            In Malaysia, whiteworshipping is very real. The darker you are, the worst you’re being treated, so indian are worst off because they have the darkest skin of all the ethnic in malaysia, they will have lower chance of getting jobs, house rental, and be treated as if they have higher chance of committing crime by the police. We even have derogatory name for them.

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              Yep that’s a prejudiced mindset alright, but as you are all the same “races” in that system, it’s bigotry based on skin colour, which is similar but different. A racist would put you all in the same bucket.

              To be clear, it’s possible to be racist, ethnocentric, xenophobic, and classist all in the same breath, and each is a different prejudice.

              Caste can be very much like racism sometimes, but it’s still a different system of discrimination.

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                as you are all the same “races” in that system

                The heck are you talking about