• panthera_@lemmy.todayOP
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      18 hours ago

      Under my plan Putin doesn’t get all he wants. He will be getting far less territory than he wants.

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        15 hours ago

        Except he’s not in it for territories.

        Also you got to remember all previous attempts to pacify an aggressor, starting from a nice chap by the name of Neville.

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah but without compensation / reparations ? It’s absolutely a bad deal for the victims.

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          14 hours ago

          You have to have a deal that Putin might accept. Putin will certainly reject a deal which requires reparations.

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            14 hours ago

            I don’t think any one has to have a deal that they themselves cannot accept… why would the Zelensky dude and our fellow Ukrainians have to settle? They seem like a pretty brutal and opinionated bunch…

            No one « have to » until they are all eating dirt really.

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              13 hours ago

              Ukraine will accept my proposal because it would end a war which is killing its people and which it might not win. The problem is whether Putin will accept the proposal.

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        18 hours ago

        Crimea is Ukraine, let alone the rest of occupied territories. It’s not just some “land” - despite everything there are Ukrainian people living there.

        Russia keeping land annexed by brute force will not achieve anything and only add billions upon billions of debt to rebuild and resettle what was eradicated.