• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Iran loves to issue empty threats.

    They’ve been crippled. Their ability to project artillery outside their borders is receding with every passing day. As soon as the US/Israel offer them a seat at the bargaining table, they’ll come rushing back just like they have every other time the US/Israel has pushed their shit in.

    If you love getting rug-pulled, go ahead and root for Iran.

    If you want to cheer for the team with the kind of blood-lust necessary to obliterate a civilization, you’d be better off cheering for the US and Israel.

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      The war just started. How do you even know what tricks they have up their sleeves? You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam? This is the same hubris Putin demonstrated. Don’t jump the gun.

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        the US has quadrupled military hardware production. That extra juice is for Russia, Putin will be out of the Kremlin in 2 to 3 years. He does not have to like it.

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        You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam?

        Killed a whole lot of people

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          Yeah. Killing little school girls is all you can claim as an achievement! After all, little school girls are the field of expertise of your supreme commander, aren’t they?

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            We killed a whole lot of school girls in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq as well. Didn’t get the same kind of coverage, because the executive branch (and the public) were more disciplined in messaging.

            But I think a lot of warfare is, at the end of the day, a libidinal need to “mow the grass” as the genocidal IDF leadership put it. Kill your enemies. Kill their families. Kill their kids. Depopulate territory of opposition.

            Do I think dropping big explosives from the air works toward that end? Absolutely.

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              I see that you have more downvotes than upvotes. It shows you that people do not like what you say even if it is true.

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              I never thought of the US as a benevolent invasion force. I knew they massacred ordinary people. And clearly, you’re part of the problem here.

              But I’m not talking about that. Despite all the bombs you drop, you fail to achieve anything in the end. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Is there one invasion you can say you’re proud of? Perhaps psychopaths like you can, based entirely on the blood shed. But for human beings, you just keep sacrificing soldiers till you withdraw with your tail tucked behind you. You create powerful enemies who go on to cause even more damage to you. It’s your shortsightedness and simplistic thinking that defeats you in the end.

              Meanwhile, your equating human lives to grass, is just lack of humanity. I just pity you. But don’t believe for a second that you’re immune to it. One day it will be someone else doing it to you.

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                But I’m not talking about that.

                You and the rest of the US national media.

                Despite all the bombs you drop, you fail to achieve anything in the end.

                Tell it to Raytheon stockholders. Hell, tell it to Facebook stockholders.

                More importantly, tell it to every single Palestinian rendered homeless by the Nakba and the subsequent seventy years of genocidal policy. Israel exists in its current state because they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and took their homes, their farms, and cut off their access to Arab neighbors.

                Meanwhile, your equating human lives to grass

                Mowing the grass (Hebrew: כיסוח דשא) is a metaphor used to describe periodic Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip to manage the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

                The term was coined by Efraim Inbar and Eitan Shamir, two columnists for The Jerusalem Post and strategic studies researchers.

                Naftali Bennett referred to the idea in a speech in 2018 when he said “מי שלא מכסח את הדשא, הדשא מכסח אותו” (‘He who does not mow the grass, the grass mows him’)