As of now, President Volodymyr Zelensky does not plan to announce presidential elections or a referendum on a possible peace deal with Russia on Feb. 24, a source in the President’s Office familiar with the matter told the Kyiv Independent on Feb. 11.

The comment came after the Financial Times reported that Kyiv was preparing to hold both votes this spring and that Zelensky could unveil the plan on the fourth anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion.

“He wasn’t planning to,” the source said when asked whether the president would make such an announcement on Feb. 24. “When there’s no security, there’s nothing else.”

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    10 hours ago

    It’s called being invaded and by definition, yea, it’s kind of exceptional.

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        4 hours ago

        Oh, so then you should also be firmly against the russian dictatorship overseeing the aggressive invasion against Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty, right? …right?

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        Fun fact: the original meaning of a dictatorship was precisely the case where the Romans extraordinarily appointed someone to have full authority to resolve a specific problem, such as when a serious threat the the state was present.

        The Ukrainian constitution says no elections while war. Zelensky does not hold any dictatorial authority beyond the one given to him by the Ukrainian people and laws when he was elected.

        If you are going to be mad at someone for straining Ukrainian democracy, be mad at the country invading it, and thus triggering the suspension of elections.

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          Romans extraordinarily appointed someone to have full authority to resolve a specific problem, such as when a serious threat the the state was present.

          And how’d that work out?

          The Ukrainian constitution says no elections while war.

          While in a state of martial law. A constitution re-written as recently as 2015, the year following Ukrainian Oligarch Petro Poroshenko’s ascension to power.

          You’re witnessing the end stages of the collapse of democracy in the country under a set of rules authorized barely a decade ago.

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            And how’d that work out?

            Given that the Roman Republic lasted for something like 480 years (509 – 27 BC) ? Pretty damn well thank you very much, that’s a longer lifespan that any of our current republics (minus San Marino I guess).

            While in a state of martial law. A constitution re-written as recently as 2015, the year following Ukrainian Oligarch Petro Poroshenko’s ascension to power. You’re witnessing the end stages of the collapse of democracy in the country under a set of rules authorized barely a decade ago.

            Why is martial law currently in effect buddy? Can you think of anything that would guarantee the immediate revocation of martial law? Anything? Any ideas?

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              Given that the Roman Republic lasted for something like 480 years

              Half a millennia of near endless military conquests and civil wars. What’s not to love?

              Why is martial law currently in effect buddy?

              Because your liberal reformists consolidated enormous powers in the executive branch. Again.

              You keep giving governments the ability to end elections and entrench themselves indefinitely. That’s exactly what it will do, every time.

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                Half a millennia of near endless military conquests and civil wars. What’s not to love?

                You changed the subject.

                Because your liberal reformists consolidated enormous powers in the executive branch. Again. You keep giving governments the ability to end elections and entrench themselves indefinitely. That’s exactly what it will do, every time.

                What a ridiculous thing to write in the context of this discussion. Martial law was not enacted via self-coup. The Ukrainian executive did not wake up one nice morning, realize it had some kewl powers and thought let’s enact martial law so that we can entrench ourselves. It was enacted when a foreign power invaded. It will be revoked the moment Russian soldiers return the fuck back to Russia.

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                  Martial law was not enacted via self-coup.

                  Martial Law was written into the Constitution by a billionaire Oligarch and his corrupt friends, specifically so he could leverage the fighting in the Donbas to secure his position indefinitely.

                  The Ukrainian executive did not wake up one nice morning, realize it had some kewl powers and thought let’s enact martial law

                  He needed an excuse to consolidate power, just like every other successful dictator.

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                    3 hours ago

                    What a devious plotter! He made Russia invade his country so that he could become a dictator. Genius!