cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42475417
There it is folks.
Remember that name: Chabad-Lubavitch
declassified FBI memo from the Epstein files, released on Friday, includes incendiary allegations about US President Donald Trump.
The memo says that Trump was “compromised by Israel”, that convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epsteinworked with Israeli intelligence, and that a Jewish religious group calling itself Chabad-Lubavitch sought to hijack his first term in office.
The memo, written in 2020, formed part of an FBI investigation into domestic or foreign influence over the US electoral process. It draws on information from a confidential human source (CHS) and appears among a vast trove of Epstein-related files released by the US Justice Department.
“CHS advised Chabad is doing everything they can to co-opt the Trump presidency,” the memo states regarding his first term.
Chabad-Lubavitch, a religious Jewish sect founded in Russia, has grown to an estimated 90,000 members. Its messianic, ultra-Orthodox ideology has repeatedly been linked to hardline settler colonial politics in Palestine.
We have only been saying this for 6 years or more.
So, good job to those of you who voted for trump because Kamala was pro-Isreal.
You voted for the guy who’s even MORE pro-Isreal, AND now we’re getting murdered in the streets.
The excuse is the same: ‘i had no choice lolololollll’
We’ve always told you they are both the same, both shit. Just one is a lot worse. Harm reduction is the name of the game.
Say the line, Bart!OOPS, I initially misread your post, I thought you were yelling at people who voted for neither Harris nor Trump as a principled anti-Israel position, not people who voted for Trump for supposedly being the lesser pro-Israel candidate. Obviously I didn’t vote for Trump, and obviously fuck Trump and his supporters and voters.Gonna leave the quote tho because it’s always One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This-o-clock.
But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to
make it close.— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.
So you say fuck trump and then let him win because both candidates are pro israel?
Buddy I’m just some dude with zero power and zero ability to individually change the trajectory of this fascist country. I didn’t let these fuckers do shit. The capitalist class is fully culpable for their own crimes.
And also what part of "…moral prohibition on siding with
ANY
administration that endorses
GENOCIDE
…" is unclear to you?
Like one simply cannot do a genocide and ever expect literally any goodwill from me ever again, certainly not a vote, but I wouldn’t even piss on these fucks if they were on fire.
I mean, the protest non-voters are also fucking morons. But yes, Trump voters especially.
I mean, the protest non-voters are also fucking morons.
Ah yes, thank you for giving me a second chance to correctly apply this quote:
But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to
make it close.— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.
There never were that many of those people. Kamala lost this one entirely on her own, with a lackluster platform and campaign. Not having an open primary of course didn’t help, either. Democrats suck right now, I’m sorry to say. Of course that’s going to depress turnout.
And don’t point fingers at me, I did what I could. But you should know shaming people into voting for your party has never ever worked.
There weren’t many, but they were very noisy useful idiots who convinced some other idiots to not vote because “Democrats are bad for Palestine, Trump will be better”.
Were there? I saw people saying there was functionally no difference, but not that he was better.
Not hard to find examples honestly
Zionists are Nazis.
As a Jew with Zionist family in Israel and in the States, related to Holocaust survivors and victims, and student of other Holocaust survivors, I can confirm that you’re correct.
During the early days of the Palestinian genocide, I overheard the following conversation between two old men at my mom’s synagogue:
M1: They say that Israeli forces are using Nazi tactics in Palestine. Do you think that’s true? What do you think about that?
M2: It’s been a very long time since the Holocaust and there has been a lot of healing. I think it’s time to admit that Hitler may have had some good ideas.
M1: Hmmm… I wouldn’t go that far, but maybe it’s okay to learn a thing or two from the Nazis… From your enemies.These men also cry that we’re victims of the most violence and that our tactics are just to prevent another Holocaust. But I thought “tHeRe has beEn a LoT oF heALiNG.”
You basically lose any moral high ground by calling anyone Hitler/Nazi.
Such a shit comparison. If Nazis were as benign as Zionists there wouldn’t have been a world war 2. No one would have given a fuck.
If you want to criticize effectively, be more precise.
If you want to criticize effectively, be more precise.
Okay: precisely, Zionist dogma is equivalent to Nazi dogma where Zionist Jews are the privileged in-group. And what the Israeli entity is doing to Palestinians is equivalent in intent and practice to what the Nazis did to Jews.
If I made any other comparison, I would be losing precision, because the comparison is so precise!
Jews longing for national liberation are Nazis?
Nah fuck right off with that opinion, two and a half fucking years into the Gaza genocide, you fucking for real? Israel is just “Jews longing for national liberation”? Shut the fuck up Zionist
If you think this predicament started two and a half years ago, then you’re a fucking idiot.
Correct. Zionists were fascist trash since the inception of the Zionist movement.
“Anarchist without adjectives” more like “”“anarchist”“” without principles
That is just the new account of a banned genocide denier who conflicts zionists with jews. A nationalistic anarchist. LOL.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=13533
Yeah I remember that asshole. I remember yelling at them a couple days before they got banned too 😆
I accept that a Jew who wishes for a nation-state for Jews, based on civic nationalism, inclusive for people of different religions and ethnicities, and showing the due respect for the natives and their property and land rights, isn’t far right.
But for the most part, Israelis are far-right now.
How can it be “for Jews” but also be inclusive of non-Jews? That’s the whole problem.
Unless you mean for Jews in that it’s for everyone who wants to live there and participate in such a society. But that’s not what they typically mean when they say “for Jews”.
A fifth of Israelis are Palestinian.
Jews collectively decide to go to the same region, and in doing so give it a significant Jewish cultural character.
And I don’t have any problem with that. The issue is when they decide to enhance that distinctly Jewish character by expelling or killing everyone who is different from them. That’s called fascism.
Not literally nazis in the “claim the ww2 german nazi party as indicative of their personal identity” sense, but in the way that “Nazi” gets used in modern english as a synonym for “fascist”. And arguably that user has a point; trying to build a state based on a favored identity at the expense of another group who lives on that land, re-framing marginalization and conflict with that group as self defense, is one of the hallmarks of fascism. If it were just “national liberation”, then who would they be seeking liberation from? Israel isnt under foreign occupation or some kind of vassalage, the closest thing to that you could even argue for is that they have some dependence on the US for military support, and beyond that relationship not being at the level of the US controlling Israel, the US isnt who zionists are usually fighting against anyway. If this were still the era of the roman empire or something, that kind of line might make some sense, but under the current state of affairs, it does not.
Oh look, a Nazi.
Look up the Lehi terrorist organization, which was folded into the IDF. They literally tried to join WW2 on the side of the Nazis, but you know, Nazis.
Anyway, their philosophical wing adopted, and started pushing, Nazi race science with the races switched around. This is where the major push of people claiming “god’s chosen people” to justify their evil comes from.
Also, the second leader of Lehi was eventually elected to Prime Minister, and was even more of an evil bastard by that point. He also was Netanyahu’s political mentor.
