This is all part of Trumps strategy to create disfunction in U.S. immigration courts.

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    Hey Q-anon, you guys still out there?

    I know ya’ll really enjoy playing find-a-word games and decoding clues and writing stories, but that thing you’ve been saying? Yah it’s all real, it’s happening RIGHT NOW and you just have to go outsi-

    Oh, okay I see the issue now.

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    It’s insane that the government is doing this to circumvent the law… It’s absolutely barbaric, and completely unimaginable before Trump.

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    Are they concentrating people of one ethnicity in campus? We can call me maybe concentration… camps?

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      Oddly enough, I was wondering what else they’re doing to those children, during and after detention.

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        All the evidence is there. Means, motive, opportunity. It’s unconscionable that there is no restraint or oversight on any of this.

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          Because it’s not just this administration. They don’t work for us, their real paycheck comes from people with far larger bank accounts than yours and mine, and a far larger social network.

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      they still are msm is not even registering it anymore, plus they have been doing it for a while with homeless people. if you have observed or lived in one of those cities you can tell a sudden increase in recent years everytime trump was in the wh.

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    UNKNOWN, HEAVILY ARMED, and UNACCOUNTABLE Men are Kidnapping Children and Disappearing them DESPITE Court Orders? Quick! Shoot up a Drag Show to Protect The Children!

    -Republicans LITERALLY!

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    Yes. This is literally fascist soldiers invading bordering states and capturing people. This isn’t enforcement, these are barbarian raids, and we need to start responding to them as such.

    What we have learned from this is that ALL of the state, county, and municipal police and military assets are entirely useless at actually protecting the people of the state. The are nothing more than public money cash grabs intended to offset the cost of corporate security to the tax payers. They don’t work for us, so lets stop paying for it and replace this shit with something that does.

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      Thing is, when you “stop paying for it”, you’ll learn quickly what the actual function of those institutions is.

      We need to reach a critical mass to where opting out, collectively, does more harm than they’re able or willing to tolerate. I thought for a long time we couldn’t reach it without improving the education system… which requires working within the system… which requires selling your soul, endorsing genocide, etc. But now I’m starting to question that - maybe we can grassroots it after all.

      My concern is that the momentum in that direction will be squashed when Democrats inevitably get elected over Republicans (because I don’t think they have the political capital to pull of a coup at this point), as liberals will think they “won” because now the deportations are less in-your-face and the genocide is presented less in terms of “FUCK YEAH GLASS THE DESERT” and instead presented as “well it’s terrible, so terrible, very sad, but Israel is our ally…”

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        Yeah, I think you are likely right about the outcome here. The sad thing is that the ENTIRE ICE/BP bullshit is literally just Trump trying to beat Biden and Obama’s deportation numbers but being too stupid to do it in a way that doesn’t make it look as horrible as it is, and most of the tools he is using to DO that horrible shit are tools that were put into place by Democratic administrations. The Democrats are no friends to the immigrant and simply shifting to their authority won’t do anything but make it easier for white people to ignore what is happening.

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      I don’t dare fight back because they’d kill me, and then my family would have no income

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    They are trafficking children like they did during the Family Separation debacle. The pretty ones get sold to sex slavers, the rest get sold as house slaves to Oligarchs. Anybody that causes trouble gets sent on a camping trip to the Everglades.

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      What the fuck? It’s already the law not to do this at all, and also NOT TO IGNORE FUCKING COURT ORDERS. Like, are you making jokes?

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        There isn’t a very structured process for approvals or denials of things like temporary protected status. If there were then practically anybody being deported would have been able to sue and get back in.

        I’m on your side about this but the reality is that the Supreme Court is politicized and largely siding with this administration, congress still sides with this administration, and the billionaire corporations we all feed into to grow their wealth are all siding with it too.

        It’s amazing to me that we can’t get 60% of the vote to lock shit down, but the reality is that “democrats” aren’t on our side outside of a handful of exceptions like Bernie. Big money owns politics. We’re seeing the fallout of allowing superpacs to be funded now. The citizens united ruling back in 2010 is what is fucking us, but it’s too complex for people to rally behind for a general strike.

        I wish I could change it, but I’m powerless. I’m not a billionaire or a trillionaire.

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        Laws kind of still are, it’s just that immigration law today in the US is completely arbitrary. That’s why they can bring people in with legitimate asylum claims, initially clear them and give them TPS, then simply deny them after the fact and put them on a plane and deport them within a couple of days of holding in southern shithole states where private operators make boatloads of cash working with the process.

        I have sat down with a final interview with a USCIS officer less than a year ago. We were terrified that the conditional green card would be revoked (had spent something like two years applying to have the condition removed, the interview for naturalization came first.) We were terrified that they would simply be taken right then and there, but somehow it was simply “recommended for citizenship” and just a few short terrifying weeks of ‘invalid certificate of naturalization’ back and forth mailing on a passport application later and an extra visit to have them re-do the mistake at USCIS later, they got their passport and we feel mostly safe.

        For some reason we as a nation are pretending like Afganistan, Haiti, Somalia and Venezuela are safe countries and that the people who have come here to try and escape persecution, rape and death are not under real threat. It’s mind blowing and probably a violation of international law… but still the majority of those that elected this administration are cheering for this. The opposition party has no influence or power to stop it and all the protests in the world by the left won’t stop this. Nothing really can change until midterms if the democrats or independents pull a miracle and win in tons of red districts.

        The cherry on top is that tons and TONS of latin american immigrants are highly conservative and completely for this. I know several and it’s just completely insane. If they did the process the “right way” by marrying a citizen or winning the lottery they act like they somehow deserve it any more than the next one.

        Since i’m already well into my soap box… the fear and intimidation tactics are wholly unnecessary, and they’re still only deporting twice as many as Obama despite pouring billions of dollars into this. Minnesota and Greenland have all just smoke and mirrors to distract us from the trumpstein files imo. There’s enough there to cause serious damage but the news cycle has wholly ignored them all of January. I think a lot of this shit is planned out well in advance from a high level, but trying to prove that is like trying to convince a faithful person that religion is a lie.

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        What laws prevent deportation of human beings from stolen land? Because that’s the real “mess”, not merely the hamfisted way Trump’s brownshirts are going about it.

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    SUUUUUPER Hot Take: The PSTD and Trauma is the price to pay for being prematurely evacuated from the impending Sahara sized food desert that will encompass the USA before 2030. (Sorry morbid humour is my coping mechanism)

    I’m being HELLA-facetious here. Like it’s ultra fucked up what they’re doing.

    But like America is FUCKED. >70% of the food is ultra processed. Of that remaining 30% over half of that is imported from regions that are experiencing agriculture interrupting climate change.

    There is going to be massive food scarcity and malnutrition on levels that even Great Depression survivors have never experienced.

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      From here in Canada it looks a lot like, instead of governing responsibly, the USA is burning up its own land in the expectation that when things get tough it can just take ours.

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        Well, there is the argument that a lot of aggressive actions by the Third Reich were in part an attempt to keep their economy from collapsing after blowing everything on the military.

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      The US produces so much food that it’s people do not eat. We grow corn to turn into shitty fuel, or to feed to cows in another country. And we also grow soybeans to feed to Chinese farm animals. Millions of tons of food get shipped away

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      I fled the US and definitely have both of those things.

      People in the US don’t (or do) realize how much collective trauma we’ve all endured. Any time a car backfires in a crowded area, the resulting stampede makes the news. People don’t generally live like that in other countries.

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        Yea I’m not trying to make light of the life long damage these children are receiving.

        But like I genuinely believe thousands to millions of americans will starve within the next 10 years.

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          You must not live in an area where dumbasses paying tons of money to ruin their cars with crackle “tunes” is popular yet, then.

          There’s one asshat with a Mustang around here that he’s got deliberately set to backfire about twenty times every time he takes is foot off the gas, and he goes ripping up and down the main drag all night. I’ve timed him and you can quite literally hear him coming from about two miles away.

          I’m a pretty live-and-let-live sort of bird, but damn, bro. Give it a rest after midnight, will you?

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      Whatever else the prior admins did, they kept the products and food and fuel flowing into the states.

      The Trump admin bombed it all. So yes, we will start to have shortages soon.

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        Yeah I think Trump actually could’ve been a successful dictator if he had just… you know… materially improved the lives of the population before burning down all of our institutions. People don’t believe in America, they’re not going to cling to the ideal if their lives meaningfully improve while it’s trashed. But he didn’t do that.

        Much like Season 1 Trump, but a little scarier imo, I think the administration’s greed and incompetence will be our only saving grace. Though the increasingly-militant resistance is also a very good sign.

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          It’s chaos. Trump is an empty vessel filled with whomever is standing next to him.

          His daughter didn’t like immigrant children washing up on beaches (first term) so sanctions were placed.

          As soon as Elon went to work the next one pushed him out to take over filling up Trump with ideas.

          He gushed over Mamdani even though the man is his opposite.

          The rubber banding makes sense when you realize he’s a big, dumb sponge for the guy talking to him. Right now, it’s Stephen Miller.