I suspect you have puddle-deep insight into global economic dependencies, the fragility of the US economy, the EU + Canada Arctic warfare capabilities, and the likely outcome of an invasion of a northern neighboring country that looks like you, sounds like you, and can hide in plain sight or hop over the indefensible border to bring violence to your homes. The US has no concept of a war that impacts their home country, and dropping some hardware and troops in a country on the other side of the planet, in a country with no economic connection to the US, is not the same thing. Even when the enemy has different skin and vastly different culture and language, they still end up leaving after decades of slaughter having accomplished nothing but huge debt for taxpayers, huge profits for oil companies and defense contractors, and piles of dead Americans.
So, to you I say - do it. Shit or get off the pot. Nothing will hasten the downfall of the shittiest form of America quicker than trying to go to war with the world. You are fighting for treasure, we are fighting for survival. And don’t be surprised if the strategy is to pretend to be humbled before Trump, who is incapable of seeing when he’s being manipulated, in order to slow play and draw out the inevitable internal and economic collapse.
I suspect you have puddle-deep insight into global economic dependencies, the fragility of the US economy, the EU + Canada Arctic warfare capabilities, and the likely outcome of an invasion of a northern neighboring country that looks like you, sounds like you, and can hide in plain sight or hop over the indefensible border to bring violence to your homes.
I don’t need to, because my grandfather ran up the beaches of Normandy and fought all the way to the German border, alongside Brits and Americans. But the good Americans, not like you. My country has a proud history of fighting fascists, and we actually participated in both world wars from the beginning unlike you guys who showed up years too late, and then spent the next century bragging about how you won the whole thing. You have no concept of suffering during war. In fact you got a golden ticket after WW2 to tune the global economic system to give you every advantage, so I look forward to the moment of realization when you no longer have the dollar standard and all your TBonds get sold off. You might have to actually pay your debts rather than printing money and spending it all on military hardware to enable your foreign corporate adventures.
Then he’d have told you how much of a bloody mess taking a beach head is with 1930s equipment. Again, nobody in Europe actually wants that noise. That’s why there was no major European intervention in Ukraine. Y’all just let the Ukrainians piss away their best and brightest as cannon fodder while up-selling them on Wundertanken that got stuck in the mud.
You have no concept of suffering during war.
If I didn’t, I’d be significantly more blase about a military engagement in Greenland.
I’ll spot you Trump has no concept, and will presumably fling every member of JSOC into the meat grinder if he thinks it’ll win him a 51st state and a Nobel Prize in Bribing The Right People. But the fact that folks in the EU do seem to have a meaningful contingent of anti-war locals would suggest they aren’t thrilled with the prospect of sending their kids and grandkids to die over an oversized ice cube.
There’s simply no appetite for this shit, which is why Trump (very rightly) believes he can take Greenland without a serious fight. That’s the nature of imperialism. The cost of opposing the empire is astronomically higher than the cost of acquiesce, so people tend to duck their heads until the pain is intolerable. And Greenland isn’t painful enough to fight over.
How do you believe the Axis power will occupy Greenland?
Same way they do it anywhere else. A month of artillery bombardment on every hospital, church, and elementary school with a “Fighting Age Male” in line of sight until everyone in the country is afraid to step outside the house.
Send in the jackboots to take major ports and city centers, then loot the surrounding area of valuables.
Start paying half the surviving population a bounty of bread and cigarettes for every “insurgent” scalp they bring in, and set off a civil war that scars the country for a century.
Then fall back to a Green Zone and use anyone left for target practice with your latest AI powered weapons system.
Write the territory off as “ungovernable” in fifteen years, and have your retired grunts sign a multi-million dollar book/movie deal called “Snowmobile Heroes: Liberation Victory Patrol”
Ok so they plan to kill their former allies, as well as any Greenlanders that don’t want to be occupied, which is all of them.
If you think this is a feasible sane approach, you’re either a troll, or you’re out of your fucking mind. The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
It’s no more feasible or sane than any of our other adventurist wars. But it’s crazy to think the Europeans are willing to play the role of Punching Bad to our Imperial Iron Fist. If the US is serious about taking Greenland, the Europeans will back out of the way. Because the US is an enormous, horrifying killing machine and Greenland simply isn’t worth that kind of heat.
The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
European reactionaries will be on the side of the US - just like Canadians were in the last election cycle - and they’ll likely eat some shit for it in the short term. But the US will continue to pump the continent full of white nationalist propaganda. The liberal European leadership will continue to let it happen. And the reactionaries will win in the end when liberals roll over a few years later.
It’s no more feasible or sane than any of our other adventurist wars.
All the other times you attacked your allies? All the other wars with Europe and Canada?
This has got to be the stupidest comment you’ve said in our entire exchange, and the bar is pretty high. If you truly believe that you can flatten all US imperial actions and assume the responses will be the same - and you’re comfortable building the granddaddy of all false equivalences ever, comparing invading a NATO member country and killing their citizens to, say, Iraq - then you are well and truly brain damaged.
Thank Christ you’re not representative of the real and good Americans, and you should frankly be on your knees thanking them everyday for saving you from yourself and giving you a country that isn’t a complete moral and economic shithole. That is assuming they beat you shitpumps down and start reversing course, which it seems like they’re doing.
From this point on, I’m assuming you’re a bot so I don’t start to taint my impression of the majority of Americans who have had enough of the Trump dictatorship. So in light of this assumption, I bid you…piss off wanker.
I suspect you have puddle-deep insight into global economic dependencies, the fragility of the US economy, the EU + Canada Arctic warfare capabilities, and the likely outcome of an invasion of a northern neighboring country that looks like you, sounds like you, and can hide in plain sight or hop over the indefensible border to bring violence to your homes. The US has no concept of a war that impacts their home country, and dropping some hardware and troops in a country on the other side of the planet, in a country with no economic connection to the US, is not the same thing. Even when the enemy has different skin and vastly different culture and language, they still end up leaving after decades of slaughter having accomplished nothing but huge debt for taxpayers, huge profits for oil companies and defense contractors, and piles of dead Americans.
So, to you I say - do it. Shit or get off the pot. Nothing will hasten the downfall of the shittiest form of America quicker than trying to go to war with the world. You are fighting for treasure, we are fighting for survival. And don’t be surprised if the strategy is to pretend to be humbled before Trump, who is incapable of seeing when he’s being manipulated, in order to slow play and draw out the inevitable internal and economic collapse.
Now say it in German.
I don’t need to, because my grandfather ran up the beaches of Normandy and fought all the way to the German border, alongside Brits and Americans. But the good Americans, not like you. My country has a proud history of fighting fascists, and we actually participated in both world wars from the beginning unlike you guys who showed up years too late, and then spent the next century bragging about how you won the whole thing. You have no concept of suffering during war. In fact you got a golden ticket after WW2 to tune the global economic system to give you every advantage, so I look forward to the moment of realization when you no longer have the dollar standard and all your TBonds get sold off. You might have to actually pay your debts rather than printing money and spending it all on military hardware to enable your foreign corporate adventures.
Then he’d have told you how much of a bloody mess taking a beach head is with 1930s equipment. Again, nobody in Europe actually wants that noise. That’s why there was no major European intervention in Ukraine. Y’all just let the Ukrainians piss away their best and brightest as cannon fodder while up-selling them on Wundertanken that got stuck in the mud.
If I didn’t, I’d be significantly more blase about a military engagement in Greenland.
I’ll spot you Trump has no concept, and will presumably fling every member of JSOC into the meat grinder if he thinks it’ll win him a 51st state and a Nobel Prize in Bribing The Right People. But the fact that folks in the EU do seem to have a meaningful contingent of anti-war locals would suggest they aren’t thrilled with the prospect of sending their kids and grandkids to die over an oversized ice cube.
There’s simply no appetite for this shit, which is why Trump (very rightly) believes he can take Greenland without a serious fight. That’s the nature of imperialism. The cost of opposing the empire is astronomically higher than the cost of acquiesce, so people tend to duck their heads until the pain is intolerable. And Greenland isn’t painful enough to fight over.
How do you believe the Axis power will occupy Greenland? Tell me a typical plan. How would it roll out?
And how will it happen without lethal force?
And if EU or Canadian troops are killed, or Greenlanders are killed, do you think it will just be brushed under the rug and dismissed?
Same way they do it anywhere else. A month of artillery bombardment on every hospital, church, and elementary school with a “Fighting Age Male” in line of sight until everyone in the country is afraid to step outside the house.
Send in the jackboots to take major ports and city centers, then loot the surrounding area of valuables.
Start paying half the surviving population a bounty of bread and cigarettes for every “insurgent” scalp they bring in, and set off a civil war that scars the country for a century.
Then fall back to a Green Zone and use anyone left for target practice with your latest AI powered weapons system.
Write the territory off as “ungovernable” in fifteen years, and have your retired grunts sign a multi-million dollar book/movie deal called “Snowmobile Heroes: Liberation Victory Patrol”
Ok so they plan to kill their former allies, as well as any Greenlanders that don’t want to be occupied, which is all of them.
If you think this is a feasible sane approach, you’re either a troll, or you’re out of your fucking mind. The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
That’s been the US modus operandi since Truman.
It’s no more feasible or sane than any of our other adventurist wars. But it’s crazy to think the Europeans are willing to play the role of Punching Bad to our Imperial Iron Fist. If the US is serious about taking Greenland, the Europeans will back out of the way. Because the US is an enormous, horrifying killing machine and Greenland simply isn’t worth that kind of heat.
European reactionaries will be on the side of the US - just like Canadians were in the last election cycle - and they’ll likely eat some shit for it in the short term. But the US will continue to pump the continent full of white nationalist propaganda. The liberal European leadership will continue to let it happen. And the reactionaries will win in the end when liberals roll over a few years later.
All the other times you attacked your allies? All the other wars with Europe and Canada?
This has got to be the stupidest comment you’ve said in our entire exchange, and the bar is pretty high. If you truly believe that you can flatten all US imperial actions and assume the responses will be the same - and you’re comfortable building the granddaddy of all false equivalences ever, comparing invading a NATO member country and killing their citizens to, say, Iraq - then you are well and truly brain damaged.
Thank Christ you’re not representative of the real and good Americans, and you should frankly be on your knees thanking them everyday for saving you from yourself and giving you a country that isn’t a complete moral and economic shithole. That is assuming they beat you shitpumps down and start reversing course, which it seems like they’re doing.
From this point on, I’m assuming you’re a bot so I don’t start to taint my impression of the majority of Americans who have had enough of the Trump dictatorship. So in light of this assumption, I bid you…piss off wanker.