Was reading about undersea com/internet cables. Then just started thinking about how wild it would have been if a wreck like the Titanic had been messed up even more if a cable (or cables) had been dropped on it (or even found due to laying them).

I started searching, but there are too many articles about the cables being damaged and/or sabotaged. But aside from some that talk about potential impact of the environments where they are laid, I haven’t seen anything about damaging shipwrecks by the cables or discovering any while being placed.

Would imagine that most of the cables are placed outside of really busy shipping routes, and avoid unnecessarily deep sections. Still would be kind of interesting to know.

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    In most industries contractors actively avoid “discovering” anything of historic value.

    In construction for example, if you uncovered an amazing archaeologically significant site, it will be a huge pain in the butt and cost everyone a loads of money due to delays et cetera.

    In the case of a shipwreck, it’s not going to be heavily laden with gold bullion you get to keep. It will merely be “interesting” in “enhancing our understanding of 1700s naval operations” or some such. You probably won’t even get credited with the discovery.

    The ships equipped for industrial operations at sea like this cost an absolute fortune to operate. They also have contracts lined up months or years into the future. These contracts have crazy financial penalties for delays et cetera. This means any kind of delay in fulfilling a contract can be disasterous.

    Additionally, I don’t think much detailed survey work would be done prior to laying cable because that would be preclusively expensive. They would check depth per existing charts, maybe check what the sea floor is composed of geologically speaking. They definitely aren’t sending down remote controlled rovers to check for ship wrecks.

    Honestly, I reckon they just steer the boat and spool the cable off the back, pausing momentarily to splice in the next cable when necessary.

    If there was a big flashing sign that said “super interesting ship wreck right here” they’d close their eyes and make sure no one on board noticed that.

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    24 hours ago

    Planners do a lot of preparatory work before laying cables, but based on the few articles and studies I could find online, it appears they rarely share their findings with the public.

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    I mean from what I see they are spooled off the back of ships so I think its possible as they sorta land where they will. I mean I assume the boats are charting some course that minimizes overall depth or whatnot to reduce how much and the lenght of the cables. There is way to much at stake money and performance wise not to. Likely to avoid any known dangerous things or things where the cable would damage something important. This makes me think they must all be pretty close together. Thats the thing with savatoge. requires a submarine while the laying of cable is from the surface.

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      Sabotage can also be carried out without submarines. For example, a ship could drag its anchor along the seabed (whether in the Baltic Sea or the Taiwan Strait) near known locations of internet cables.

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      The team wanted to set up here, but was held back by the lack of mod tools.

      Lemmy hasn’t really improved on them yet, but there’s a revamped UI in the works. Piefed has a number of improvements already.

      Maybe once things are looking good enough for their high standards, we can invite them back over to take a look 😄

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        Piefed might support what they need at this point. I’ve heard the devs really focused on moderator tooling.

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          Piefed also has a feature to mark replies as an “answer” (like StackOverflow) which would be cool for the comm