I’m not OP, but that post resonated with me a lot.
Lmao just make a post that those contrary to the Lemmy propaganda machine and you’ll get the same experience.
Eh… I blocked the tankie triad, its very chill most of the time
I think theres a slight distinction, the far-right likes to use racial slurs, tankies mostly just falsely accuse you of being a “zionist” or “genocider” or “brainwashed with western propaganda”, which, I mean, I’m none of that, so their words doesn’t really hurt me lmao.
You’ll get those people on every single social media site, it’s not just a reddit problem, it’s a people problem.
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You got a source for your claim about California? I don’t want to immediately doubt that it’s true, because I know it’s plausible. I just cannot find any information online confirming that to be true.
EDIT: Actually after doing more research I am confident that this claim is completely fabricated. Let’s do better, guys. We can take down ICE without just making things up.
EDIT2: Instead of simply downvoting my comment, I would encourage to you post a source that proves my claim wrong.
You are right, I cannot find the source I originally made my claim on. I should have linked it when I came across it at the time. It was a news report from a local news station. I cannot find a non-illegal arrest, but I did find the equivalent to non-criminal arrests
https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/.
I hate to start a conspiracy theory, but I’m not finding half of the info that I was able to find just last week. I wonder how heavy these reports, coming out, are being monitored and regulated?
Regardless, I have removed my comment because I also respect facts and debate.
Fuck ICE and if you are ICE, I would like to directly tell YOU, to go fuck yourself and roll over and die.
Brave of you to assume any of them can read.
As hard as it is, try and befriend ice rats. It makes it easier to nonchalantly leave the gas on their stove on before leaving their house
Even worse in Chicago. Less than 3% had criminal records.
Illegal immigrants are not criminals. Entering the country illegally is a civil violation, not a criminal violation. That 3% from Chicago had actual criminal records that had nothing to do with their immigration status.
Sorry but that’s not right, Illegal Entry is a criminal offense. Misdemeanor for the first offense, felony charges for any subsequent offenses.
Did I suggest otherwise?
Saying it’s even worse does imo, since there’s no shared statistic as the original 25% was about illegal immigrants rather than criminal records.
This was my thinking. The way they responded to that comment made it seem like they were equating criminal records and immigration status.
Undocumented, being here longer than your stay is on the level of a traffic violation. These people who have been here need to be able to get citizenship a lot easier than it’s required. We’re a massive country and we’re a melting pot for a reason.
America has essentially been THE place to flee to if you come from a corrupt oppressive country, and/or are educated or considered a dissident. And once you’re here, you can become an American like everyone else. Period.
People should be angry that one corrupt fucking pedo and a handful of under taxed assholes are trying to take that away. This should also concern every American, since we are essentially the last place to run to for the oppressed masses, yearning to be free. We have no where to flee to.
And how many of those fleeing from corrupt oppressive countries applied for citizenship and then voted for Trump?
I would imagine a non-insignificant amount. The Right Wing’s propaganda has so thoroughly associated any social policy by the democrats as socialism that the people coming from dictatorships that promised power for the people with socialist policy yet wrecked the country with kleptocratic authoritarianism flee into the arms of the Right Wing who promised them freedom. For some reason the people refuse to see them for what they are – actual dictators and kleptocrats.
Well, not me. Not our family.
Mom is dumb and has no independent thoughts, so I just told her to vote blue because the other side is trying to deport us.
jfc. do people have no empathy at all? She’s there legally. She got citizenship. Why should she have to live in fear of being deported from a country she’s in LEGALLY??
These are truly dumb people with absolutely no ability to reflect or think critically. They just hate everyone who isn’t exactly like them, either visually, morally or spiritually.
because they’re racists
I think every rasvist should hang themselves.
i think at least some of them can be redeemed… but i wouldn’t mind too much
Ding ding ding!
Plenty of folks only have sympathy for those these know directly. As for empathy, I don’t think they have that.
This is 2025 America, not Nazi Germany
I… um… have some news for OP.
What’s that stat? That 1 in 3 commenters is a bot? I hate that there’s bots, but it’s strangely reassuring to think not all the hate mail being sent to the OOP is from a real person.
According to Kurzgesagt it’s higher than 1 in 2, and according to the Dead Internet Theory 50% is where it begins. The con is that the aggressive bots are almost always made by people for the purpose of attack so it’s still people, the pro is that it’s likely one person’s agenda for every thousand or so bots
Sounds like we need to make good bots that drown out the bullshit. Fight fire with fire.
The only way to take out a bad guy with
gunbot, is a good guy with a botYou don’t fight bullshit with more bullshit. The problem is people passing bots off as an authentic human response. Doing more of that with a different ideological slant doesn’t make things more alive, just dead with different aesthetics.
It’d be more to combat the toxicity, not to magically make them go away
Let’s think that through. For that to work we only want the bot to respond to toxic AI slop, not authentic humans trying to engage with other humans. If you have an accurate AI slop detector you could integrate that into existing moderation workflows instead of having a bot fake a response to such mendacity. Edit: But there could be value in siloing such accounts and feeding them poisoned training data… That could be a fun mod tool
According to Kurzgesagt it’s higher than 1 in 2, and according to the Dead Internet Theory 50% is where it begins. The con is that the aggressive bots are almost always made by people for the purpose of attack so it’s still people, the pro is that it’s likely one person’s agenda for every thousand or so bots
Does reddit allow any kind of content in direct messages? Why can’t they disable bots like that by deleting their accounts?
Reddit recently got rid of their direct message system entirely in favor of their new ‘chat’ system, which overall sucks, but one advantage is you now don’t see messages by default and have the option to ‘ignore’ message requests instead of seeing their content. As for manual moderation, doubt that will ever happen since Reddit is a corporation that isn’t going to want to pay people for that kind of thing.
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Sorry, I’m not clear on who your “fuck you” is directed towards
Using the internet should come with loading screen tips for noobs like Reddit OP.
For example:
You will encounter mean people and trolls, learn how to deal with them (block/report) and stop crying
We can acknowledge that mean people and trolls on the internet are inevitable, whilst also denouncing unacceptable behaviour. If we don’t call out stuff, then that’s a great way for the window of what is considered to be acceptable to slide ever further into hostility.
I think it’s important to try to hold the line, where possible. I’m someone who is pretty good at only engaging in online discussions in a manner that’s productive and/or wholesome, but even I sometimes find that online discussions can make it so easy to slip into needless hostility. I think the anonymous format is a big part of it, as is the lack of context we have for most comments, which can cause people to misinterpret the tone of a discussion and engage in a more argumentative manner than they might do otherwise.
I tend to post positive stuff because I made an active choice to resist that pull of toxicity that many of us feel on the internet. I found that doing my best to disengage from the toxic stuff helped me to be more resistant towards accidentally slipping into vitriolic arguments. Calling out trolls for acting inappropriately probably isn’t going to shame them into treating their fellow online humans with respect, but that kind of denunciation is more for the benefit of the spectators than the trolls — especially if we want to prevent a community from producing even more trolls.
TL;DR:
“You will encounter mean people and trolls, learn how to deal with them (block/report)”
Good advice
“stop crying”
Not good advice. We can encourage people to block nasty people, whilst still retaining a sense of compassion for the people who are being shat on by trolls.
“stop crying”
Not good advice. We can encourage people to block nasty people, whilst still retaining a sense of compassion for the people who are being shat on by trolls.
Sorry I stopped caring about obviously incompetent people (like Reddit OP) a long time ago.
People that don’t know how to help themselfs and constantly cry about everything being so bad while doing nothing to improve their situation (like doing an obvious web search or maybe migrating to Lemmy if Reddit is so bad) will be exterminated anyway in the long run by the laws of nature.
What would also greatly help too, is for moderators and admins to have some balls and neutralize said trolls instead of sometimes letting situations play itself out.
Furthermore, I believe that if moderation is as skeletal as some communities tend to be, it is time to put the power back into the user. I have seen wonderful features and mechanics in place, the problem is, is that those features are spread about in various platforms/sites. Like Gaia Online, old as fuck avatar site, allows you to lock your own threads. Imagine how useful that would be and yes it can be exploited but then that’s when a mod/admin can come in and decide to deal with a user who’ll make shitty posts only to lock them.
The Fediverse’s weakness is that when you block someone, you can still see that they can reply to you, even if you don’t see them. The notification can still register them as anyone else who responds.
I just think with more tools available for users to fend for themselves that aren’t having to always go to the mods/admin or having to mass-report in the off-chance a troll deletes their account to come back and do it all again. With more tools, it would try to help make communities more positive than seeing how long they can endure.
Okay, blocked. xD
