Mexico President Claudia Sheinbaum has said she will press charges against a man who groped her during a public appearance.

Mobile phone footage of the incident on Tuesday shows Sheinbaum speaking to a group of supporters on a street near the National Palace in Mexico City. A man approaches her from behind and attempts to kiss her on the neck and place his hands on her body.

“My view is, if I don’t file a complaint, what will happen to other Mexican women? If they do this to the president, what will happen to all women in our country?” Sheinbaum said at a news conference on Wednesday.

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      That was my question after seeing the video… and it’s mexico… no bodyguards? And please notice that I mean no offense to mexico and that I’m questioning this as a latin.

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    You know it was staged, right? Everyone knows it’s a distraction from this. It isn’t the first time she does something to distract from the current events…

    I know I’m going to get downvoted for this but it’s infuriating to live in México and you can’t criticize our government because all of you love that an empowered woman is in control… Most of México is a mess right now, cartels are in control, just last weekend I had a trip to my mother’s inherited grandmas house and in a small town and after a 6 hour trip we just went back because they control the town.

    My mom said she rather lose her childhood home than our lives…

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      Reminds me of Benazir Bhutto as Prime Minister in Pakistan.

      Her PPP party bombed Imran Khan’s cancer hospital a day after he announced his own PTI party.

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      What are you talking about?? You clearly don’t live in Mexico and just hear US propaganda/ Telemundo/ tv azteca which is the same.

      1. This wasn’t staged. Sadly there are men like this in Mexico
      2. carlos M. tragedy is begin blow out proportion by the media to decrease approval and have the elite funded parties rise again or use it as an excuse so the use can US can invade Mexico.

      This shit happened way more in previous governments and never heard about it.

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      The late mayor also told a group of women in his city that, if their children were in the crime, “do not squeal if they are killed by the government in a confrontation.”

      Imagine stanning for Milei like figures. Rest in piss mayor.

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        You mean besides the news articles I linked? The ones with photos?.. No I don’t.

        Edit: and because it’s usual for presidents to walk the streets without bodyguard… And more after one politician just got killed…

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          Se poco y nada de la politica mexicana, pero me acuerdo de alguna vez haber chateado con un mexicano que me dijo algo en las lineas de “te das cuenta de qué partido es el que está con los narcos, porque es el que gana las elecciones”.

          No se que tan real es o no eso, pero si es así, te entenderia que la presidente ande sin guardia.

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            Para mí todos son iguales, solo que tal vez ahora me afecta más directamente con mi jefecita adorada en este momento. No les creo a ninguno.

            For English speakers: to me all political parties are the same, maybe just this time it affects more directly with my grandma’s house. I don’t trust them

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      Are the federales lacking resources or intent? That assassination was clearly a message, I admittedly don’t know a lot about Mexican politics but is it possible to defeat the cartels or is it a competition of monopoly?

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        Morena, her political party, is very friendly to the drug cartels, AMLO (our last president) went to greet Chapo’s mom for example. He’s the one that created morena.

        His ideology was “let them work and they won’t mess with you” .

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          Idk why the quotations since this was never said.

          Yes cartels (which are funded by the US) do have a big influence in Mexico, but no MORENA isn’t friendly to the drug cartel.

          They understand that going into blood battles against them doesn’t improve it. ( which happened in previous governments) Instead they are targeting the root cause like:

          1. taking 11 million Mexicans out of poverty,
          2. increased salaries
          3. education grants
          4. infrastructure, etc.

          their actual slogan is: “abrazos no balazos” which means hugs instead of bullets.

          They understand that most don’t joins cartels out of fun, but need.

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            1 their numbers… Not the reality

            2 yes they are working on the minimum wage, but a what’s the point if inflation is sky high 30 eggs (la cartera, para que entiendas que soy mexa) it’s $100 pesos?

            3 education grants to teenagers that will vote next election? Are you kidding me? They are buying votes…

            4 infrastructure? Ask Samsung what they think? Or how about when he cancelled NAICM because they were corrupt without proof and they made vs El chAIFA that gets flooded?

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            I’m going to reply in Spanish since you think I’m not Mexican, sorry for whoever can’t understand.

            Y cuando soltó al Chapito? Cada año hacen su Badiraguato fest porque lo soltaron? A poco muy pro mujer pero ahí tienes al Salgado mascerdonio gobernando a través de su hija? No manches, chairo

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    In another thread about this episode people were saying the entire incident was staged by her to distract from other news. I got downvoted to hell for suggesting that it was anti-woman to believe such a conspiracy theory rather than acknowledge that a woman got groped.

    The fact that she’s pressing charges should put the conspiracy theory to bed. Why would she take it into a courtroom for more attention if it was just a stunt to manipulate the press that week? I’m sure someone will double down on conspiracy theories to come up with an answer to that question…

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      You realise people can see your post history, right? Massively misrepresenting what happened might make you feel good, but it doesnt change the facts.

      You were told multiple times that the assault was real. You were told multiple times that sexual assault is a massive problem in this area. In this comment thread, you even agreed with someone saying the exact same thing you were arguing against yesterday.

      At risk of you not reading it, yet again, i shall once again reiterate: sexual assault is a crime that should be taken seriously. However, when you are in a position of power, your actions get analyzed with a higher level of scrutiny. In this case, it was discussed that there were multiple massive news stories that were important in Mexico, and that the timing on this was worth looking into as a possible distraction.

      Jesus Christ, nuance for fucks sake. If you legitamately think that anyone is God’s chosen angel that can do no wrong and tell no lies because they are a woman, you are braindead. No one ever stepped up in support of the dude, he was universally condemned. No one said “well she shouldnt have been wearing that”

      As the leader of a country in a turbulent period of time, your actions will be analyzed from every possible perspective. It does not matter you gender.

      Not a single person here stated that the sexual assault was in any way acceptable

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        Your position is as ludicrous today as it was yesterday. But at least today you seem to realize that it needs defending. Nothing you wrote here is remotely convincing. You’re manufacturing the appearance of circumstantial evidence at absolute best and straining through a heap of passive sexism to do it. But at least trying to explain yourself is progress from your lame attempt at haughtiness in the other thread. Eat shit, y’all.

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          So this right here is a picture of you agreeing with what i just said. I’m still not going to debate you over whether or not i support women, my post history speaks for itself and i dont need to justify myself to you. But if youre going to continue posting factually inaccurate bullshit for sympathy points when theres actual real issues then yeah, imma call you out on it.

          Was this sexual assault? Yes. Does being undeniably sexually assaulted absolve her of all possible crimes, future, past, and present? You certain seem to think so, considering the mere discussion that there MIGHT be more going on WITH THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO is sexist.

          Youre not fucking reading at all, so yeah. Im not going to respond to you directly, but if i see your bullshit elsewhere ill call you out there too.

          Edit:had to bold my last statement, they immeditely proved my point yet again.

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            What is it exactly that you think I agreed with?

            And yes, son, we’re all aware of how the post history works. Stop posting pictures and be specific. Your credibility is zero with me and I’m not going to strain to pull your point out of a screenshot.

            And suggesting she staged her own sexual assault is not holding a leader’s actions to a higher degree of scrutiny. It’s a disgusting accusation in a long tradition of discrediting female victims.

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      It’s infuriating. A woman can be sexually assaulted, on video, in front of hundreds of witnesses, and some people will still insist it didn’t happen, or she staged it, or it was her fault somehow.

      This is why we still need DEI. Jesus fucking Christ.

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        Yep. If people don’t like DEI programs, they could always, you know, just treat women better.

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      Sexism is believing it is okay to grope a woman and commit sexual assault.

      Casual sexism is automatically assuming a woman (in power or not) who brings legal action against someone for committing sexual assault is doing so for attention or some other false ulterior motive.

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        Yes, thank you. It’s less overt of an assault on women then physically groping them, but it’s perhaps more insidious, because an environment of ignore-and-excuse puts ALL women everywhere at risk

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      I think it’s that #believeallwomen is a hard hill to die on. Any internet troll is a Google search away from proof that you shouldn’t blindly believe all women. It just reminds me of when Joe Biden had some allegations against him, and he got caught between a rock and a hard place: believe all women, just not this one.

      Instead of belief, it’s about respect. Whether true or not, any accusation should be taken seriously and avoid sensationalism. It’s also about understanding your role. It’s easy for me to say all of this about a situation thousands of miles away; I have an infinitely small role. If it happens closer to home, to someone you know, belief may be a part of that role, but it still needs to come from a place of respect and understand of the situation. If religion is any example, blind belief doesn’t help anything but fuel division.

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        It’s not about blindly believing all women all the time. It’s about believing them by default, and as you say, taking them seriously. In this case they were willing to discard the evidence of their eyes in favor of some pretty far fetched conspiracy theory, and considered anyone who didn’t agree to be some naive idiot. And they paradoxically claimed to take sexual assault very seriously, while doing this. SMH

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      She SAID she will press charges, but she lies daily for millions to see on TV every morning.

      But go off, the staging is very convincing for someone who doesn’t know shit about our current political climate in México

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      Not dismissing the idea that it might be for real, but random man being able to grope the literal President sounds kinda sus.

      I’m not super into Mexican politics, but doesn’t she have guard on duty to prevent just that?

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        She had guards with her. She was originally supposed to be driven around, but she decided to walk. Not sure how they got so close but this wasnt a planned trip.

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        I’m glad you don’t automatically dismiss that she was actually assaulted (!!!) I mean that’s pretty much the bare minimum everyone should do. This was captured on video. You can view it for yourself. Her guards did intervene, just a step too late. That does not mean she staged it for attention.

        But everyone would love to feel smart and come up with some alternative theory of what happened rather than contend with the sordid facts.

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      A sexual predator in Mexico was emboldened enough to grope the president in front of reporters.

      And E. Jean Carroll did sue (and won a settlement from) Trump for sexual assault.

      Let’s not do the “every nation is better than the US about everything now” thing.

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      Gangs are illegal in Mexico and corruption is something to be fought against

      ICE gets 100k salary to beat up and kidnap people with masks in US

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    Fucking disgusting, the audacity of that man is disgusting.

    They should send him to America, he has solid change in a government position. /s

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      The woman president of Mexico gets groped and Lemmy still manages to post 5 comments only about US politics. Why must you shoehorn in that shitty country into every unrelated topic on Lemmy?

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        They are the neighboring county and the topic is sexual predators.

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        Problem here is being among the public and not preparing for this scenario. That is reality.

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          “Just expect people to harass you all the time as a woman, we don’t need to correct for anything else.”

          I’m starting you think you grope women in public when you can get away with it.

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          Wait, okay, so women should be aware that they could be groped or assaulted anytime they go out in public. I can totally agree; that’s a sickening and sad reality we live in - and it does happen. I think more men should be aware of just how common it is, too.

          But what’s the point of your comments? You’re saying she should have been aware, and should understand how the world works, and that is reality and whatever but it seems like your implication is that she is wrong to be pressing charges?

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            She is a public figure. I’d expect she would be prepared for this scenario but apparently not?

            And no I don’t think she is wrong pressing charges. This behaviour is disgusting. But it’s how the world works. She should’ve been aware of it and taken the proper precautions, especially in her position.

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              You continue to push this “she should have known it would happen” idea. You’re paying lip service to how bad it is and how she’s not wrong to press charges but you keep weirdly pointing to “she should have expected this”.

              Why?

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                  What’s your opinion? You’re saying something unrelated to her pressing charges, implying a link to her pressing charges (either intentionally or not), and then not really denying the link you’ve implied 😂 Very weird behaviour!

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              Brother, you’re victim blaming to the max. She’s just out and about and your answer to this event should be that this guy is the one that is wrong, instead of her being the one thats wrong because she didn’t prepare enough

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                On top of that, he puts all the blame on her, and not an iota on her security guards, who one would presume, in a country where assassinations are all too common, are there to protect her from all forms of assault, not just sexual assault. They failed badly at their job, and if there’s a woman who should have felt confident this wouldn’t have happened, it would be her.

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                As a public figure they should know better than to “be and and about”.

                This smells more like a predetermined move to get the public on your side. As disguising it may be. I share no sympathy for either side.

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                  Of course she has security walking around, but there’s only so much you could do.

                  Bigger question is, why are you so adamantly suggesting its her fault when instead its the guy who should not be touching other people in uncouth ways.